Handling

[Smartbear]

That was with the 28i on 18’s and mine on 19’s as well Robmero...

A lot of this handling malarkey is subjective & feel is something that can vary enormously between different drivers.
Personally I think the weight of your wallet must be pinning the nose of your Boxster to the ground
Rob

Indeed it does vary, one man’s pile of junk is another man’s pile of treasure....

Weight of my wallet....?? :?

You’ve seen my MR sale thread cos I’m skint, right bear.....??

“Skintness” is very subjective as well :lol:
Rob

 

[Maniac]

When I drove a 20i it felt much more agile and responsive on turn in. Six pots feel slower to turn and scrubby. My experience anyway.

But yes, noise, smoothness and torque isnt anywhere near the same on the 4 pots.

 

[john-e89]

A lot of this handling malarkey is subjective & feel is something that can vary enormously between different drivers.
Personally I think the weight of your wallet must be pinning the nose of your Boxster to the ground
Rob

Indeed it does vary, one man’s pile of junk is another man’s pile of treasure....

Weight of my wallet....?? :?

You’ve seen my MR sale thread cos I’m skint, right bear.....??

“Skintness” is very subjective as well :lol:
Rob

I ain’t the one retired at 50 something with a pocket full of cash from a broken toe nail you nancy....

 

[HaiderGilll]

I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...

There have been many discussions on this issue of later 4 pot vs either earlier or later 6 pot.

The distilled essence is that a 4 pot is cheaper to run, handles better, can be made to go as fast as a stock 6 pot but lacks the 6 pot noise...

Application of money / prejudice / hearsay may affect your decision..

I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...

There have been many discussions on this issue of later 4 pot vs either earlier or later 6 pot.

The distilled essence is that a 4 pot is cheaper to run, handles better, can be made to go as fast as a stock 6 pot but lacks the 6 pot noise...

Application of money / prejudice / hearsay may affect your decision..

The only thing that has put me off has been the negative press the N20 engine gets, is it as bad as the internet makes out?

 

[Smartbear]

Indeed it does vary, one man’s pile of junk is another man’s pile of treasure....

Weight of my wallet....?? :?

You’ve seen my MR sale thread cos I’m skint, right bear.....??

“Skintness” is very subjective as well :lol:
Rob

I ain’t the one retired at 50 something with a pocket full of cash from a broken toe nail you nancy....

But I’m the one that’s got to live with my aspiring ballet career that’s been cruelly cut short
Not got a bean yet either
Rob

 

[Smartbear]

I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...

There have been many discussions on this issue of later 4 pot vs either earlier or later 6 pot.

The distilled essence is that a 4 pot is cheaper to run, handles better, can be made to go as fast as a stock 6 pot but lacks the 6 pot noise...

Application of money / prejudice / hearsay may affect your decision..

I have been thinking about the weight issue as well and on that account would move to may be Z4 28i 4 cylinder twin scroll turbo, less weight at the front should help it be more agile. You lose the straight six sound-track though; I want to find out what people have done though before I pull the trigger on anything. Obviously i don't run flat, proper tyres goes without saying...

There have been many discussions on this issue of later 4 pot vs either earlier or later 6 pot.

The distilled essence is that a 4 pot is cheaper to run, handles better, can be made to go as fast as a stock 6 pot but lacks the 6 pot noise...

Application of money / prejudice / hearsay may affect your decision..

The only thing that has put me off has been the negative press the N20 engine gets, is it as bad as the internet makes out?

I’d say not, I’ve heard of the odd car that’s expired but some of those seem to be due to backstreet remapping often giving bonkers power hikes.
They seem less prone to injector/fuel pump issues than the 35i/35is cars as they’re different components sourced from other bmw models and seem reliable in those respects
Rob

 

[john-e89]

“Skintness” is very subjective as well :lol:
Rob

I ain’t the one retired at 50 something with a pocket full of cash from a broken toe nail you nancy....

But I’m the one that’s got to live with my aspiring ballet career that’s been cruelly cut short
Not got a bean yet either
Rob

Cruelly cut short..?? Done the ballet world a favour....... :wink:

 

[Smartbear]

I ain’t the one retired at 50 something with a pocket full of cash from a broken toe nail you nancy....

But I’m the one that’s got to live with my aspiring ballet career that’s been cruelly cut short
Not got a bean yet either
Rob

Cruelly cut short..?? Done the ballet world a favour....... :wink:

They must owe me millions by now
Rob

 

[Anonymous]

They seem less prone to injector/fuel pump issues than the 35i/35is cars as they’re different components sourced from other bmw models and seem reliable in those respects
Rob

Actually according to BMW USA the primary reason why the injectors don't fail is to a revised design of cooling passages in the head which lowers the temperatures that the injectors are exposed to..

Fuel pump is a later design and benefits from hindsight which is usually the advantage of later variants of a design..

 

[Anonymous]

When I drove a 20i it felt much more agile and responsive on turn in. Six pots feel slower to turn and scrubby. My experience anyway.

But yes, noise, smoothness and torque isnt anywhere near the same on the 4 pots.

Part of the issue with 6 pot design is that not only is a heavier lump a lot of the weight and its ancillaries is in front of the front axle whilst the N20 engine and its bits are all behind the front axle..

I think Porsche showed the 'benefit' of hanging weight outside the axles!

 

[Busterboo]

I think Porsche showed the 'benefit' of hanging weight outside the axles!

In the 911? Only when the weight's controlled by AWD.

 

[Nick9one1]

The only thing that has put me off has been the negative press the N20 engine gets, is it as bad as the internet makes out?

The N54 6 pot isn't without its problems. I've had 6 new injectors (each at £150+), a new cam cover (£160), and the Turbo wastegate flap fix (£400).

All very common issues.

 

[Anonymous]

I think Porsche showed the 'benefit' of hanging weight outside the axles!

In the 911? Only when the weight's controlled by AWD.

I was involved in accident investigation in the late 1970s...several of the fatalities investigated were rich men in 911s

 

[Busterboo]

No need for the
I had a 911 for 5 years and know how dangerous they can be, with or without AWD.

 

[Smartbear]

No need for the
I had a 911 for 5 years and know how dangerous they can be, with or without AWD.

I had a smart roadster for a few years, same thing really (pendulum effect) mine swung me off the road & into a tree
Rob

 

[Busterboo]

You have my sympathy, Rob. Mine - on Pirelli P Zero Rosso that were good for just 8k miles - only let go twice, but a tree wasn't involved.

Actually, I was in it, having given a friend a lift to collect his 993 from being detailed. He hadn't driven his for a while and to prove that, scared himself - and me, following him - witless by putting his tail-end into a ditch. He has it on SORN now. :wink:

 

[Theivz]

Had BCR co ilovers and h+r sway bars all done together. Whole car felt much sharper and less roll. BCR had adjustable damping so could make them softer for road and harder for track

Also tyres (correct pressures) and spacers helped

 

[Jembo]

Had BCR co ilovers and h+r sway bars all done together. Whole car felt much sharper and less roll. BCR had adjustable damping so could make them softer for road and harder for track

Also tyres (correct pressures) and spacers helped

& alignment & Camber?