Hamilton hams it up....

inkey$ said:
Z4C_er said:
inkey$ said:
Maybe people outside of Automotive/F1?
OK, but if they are outside the sphere, then who is Hamilton to them anyway? For example I don't follow American football at all, and if there was someone there who was doing something extraordinary, I doubt I would be on the lookout for it or even know who they are talking about.
I genuinely get the sentiment. It’s just he has quite a large following; many of which I’m sure are fans. Facebook/Twitter/Instagram alone it’s at 30 million plus.
Good point.
 
Angelus666 said:
F1 is so utterly dull now.....what do people even watch it for, to see which one of the two mercedes cars wins the race? Where is the sport and the point of that.... :?

Hate to say it but completely agree. I never watch any of todays races anymore and even if I catch a race on the box I end up watching it for 10 mins and thats it, the dullness is overwhelming :( But then when I think back to the Senna, Prost, Mansell days along with Murray Walker and James Hunts commentry its hardly surprising to me why todays F1 pales.

As for E Formula 1 its even worse, I can only compare it to an oversized Scalextric.

Tim.
 
Angelus666 said:
F1 is so utterly dull now.....what do people even watch it for, to see which one of the two mercedes cars wins the race? Where is the sport and the point of that.... :?

Verstappen won a few races ago but yes it’s very predictable, even I’m bored of it at the mo and I never thought I’d say that. The whole of F1 was waiting with clenched teeth to get this year over with and have the new very different cars and regs next year but that’s not happening now until 2022 because of Covid. So next year will be another bore fest with the same old same old with Verstappen the only non Merc driver with half a chance, there is literally no one else able to get even close to the Mercs. Leclerc hasn’t got the car, Albon isn’t yet good enough.....it’s pretty dire right now.
 
I’ve said this a million times, but the only way to make it even half interesting is to have 20 cars, 20 drivers, 20 races and each driver has to drive each car once. Then you’ll see who the best driver, car and team is. I don’t understand how they don’t see it. We are the last generation watching it and it’ll die if they stick to its current format.
 
There’s never been a rotation in car and driver since the birth of motorsport AFAIK...doesn’t and can’t work. There is change coming as I said, the current format is being cancelled as from 2022, it will see 18” wheels, less aero effect on the front end, a level playing field with the engines.
 
Makes no difference what car they drive Verstappen Hamilton and Leclerc and hopefully Alonso from 2022 would still win everything, F1 teams aren’t stupid, they study drivers to the enth degree and employ the best if the driver will sign for them. If you had driver rotation then you would have to have a formula where every team had exactly the same chassis and engine as the information spread would mean any team that found an edge would have it leaked as soon as it appeared. F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport and car development, it’s not and never has been a same down the paddock formula. Grit the teeth and wait now until 2022.
 
And that’s the problem right there. Lewis could drive a Red Bull if you have him 3 days practice, that would make it a challenge, that would make it interesting. Who could adjust the quickest, who could get the most out of a non familiar set up. Where technology wasn’t such a huge separator in the past is totally impacts the result today.

Ask yourself this, if Lewis was in a red bull and Vettel was in a Mercedes next week, would that make it more interesting to watch?
 
No because Vettel would probably crash it..... :lol: :wink:

It could never happen because as I said teams couldn’t have a secret. You’d need every car identical then it’d work but then you wouldn’t have F1, all you’d have is a formula with the same cars.

Lest see what 2022 brings, its a level playing field.
 
If you like racing watch BSB. I know its bikes and not cars but the racing is brilliant.
One of the Irwin brothers gained 16 places before being clipped from behind after passing.
Seeing how difficult it can be for bikes to pass each other I dont even know how cars manage at all.
 
Angelus666 said:
F1 is so utterly dull now.....what do people even watch it for, to see which one of the two mercedes cars wins the race? Where is the sport and the point of that....
I concentrate on the midfield these days as that is where the excitement is. It seems that TV broadcasting does the same as they rarely look at the front of the field after the first 4 laps. I am pleased to see that Ferrari agree with me and ensure that their drivers are in mid field or close to to last battles. :D
 
Not sure where having to like someone or not comes into it. Certainly has my admiration, boy can he pedal a car, and win races!! As for his politics or BLM that is his opinion and he is free to express in whatever way he wants. The fans (and his skill set) have put him in the positions where the detractors are always shoot from the hip, to try and topple him from the top.
 
john-e89 said:
He’s jumped on the Floyd BLM bandwagon, got the team to change car and overalls colour, get some drivers to take the knee, talks a lot about how passionate he is about the whole thing but is not prepared to give up a race and 30 potential points for the cause. Surely if just one persons opinion is changed by him doing so it’s been worth it no..? Doesn’t seem to be to him obviously. It’s nothing more than his latest toy to pick up and drop when he’s bored of it like he’s done with the environment issue, I quote, “Sometimes I feel like giving up and that nobody cares”, that’s all died a death as he continued to earn 100’s of millions from one of the worlds most damaging sports in terms of pollution. He doesn’t care enough about that either to do anything about it as far as I know, certainly flying to the Isle ofMann in his private jet to exploit a tax loophole is more important than the fuel he’s burning on such exploits.

The guy is transparent, personally I can’t give any credibility to someone like that, not that my opinion means anything of course, and tbh I’ll be glad when he’s retired and maybe we can have racing without all these shallow meaningless words taking up airtime from people that are genuine and not so deeply self absorbed.

What you just described is 99% of modern celebrities. What matters to most them deep down is that they get the headline and the notoriety. At the same time. If some of them do what they consider worth the effort and time to bring attention to worthy issues, then I personalty applaud most of that. Lewis has the same right to choose how much effort he puts into different aspects of his life as any one else does. I doubt he sees it as shallow. We can't help who we are inside, shallow or otherwise. All we can do is choose what we show to others by our choices. If others don't like those choices that is up to them.
 
Roberltd2 said:
What did that crossed arms geasture mean?
It will be because Chadwick Boseman died. He played a Marvel character Black Panther who crossed his arms as a salute.
 
jabber said:
I think the problem is as with the take a knee these boycotts they are a great gesture but I fear not achieve any concrete change, that has to start at the top and with the current US president I can’t see that happening.
I’m not sure you can lay the responsibility on the current president when Obama served 8 years in office and achieved very little for the cause.
 
Nictrix said:
Roberltd2 said:
What did that crossed arms geasture mean?
It will be because Chadwick Boseman died. He played a Marvel character Black Panther who crossed his arms as a salute.

Nah, it means he can whip the Ferraris even with his arms crossed over on the wheel.

Initially wrote 'wop the Ferraris' then realised what I'd put :rofl:
 
enuff_zed said:
Nictrix said:
Roberltd2 said:
What did that crossed arms geasture mean?
It will be because Chadwick Boseman died. He played a Marvel character Black Panther who crossed his arms as a salute.

Nah, it means he can whip the Ferraris even with his arms crossed over on the wheel.

Initially wrote 'wop the Ferraris' then realised what I'd put :rofl:

Yeahhhhhhhhh.......best not eh...... :P
 
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