Goodridge braided brake lines, arrived today.

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Beedub

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well just had a call from my huge pregnant girlfriend ( thought id add that bit in, lol) that some metal pipes arrived in the post for me!! lol

anyhow i popped back to see my freshly made goodridge brake lines, C A automotive had to get these specially made from pattern o.e.m parts for me, so goodridge do make these but their not listed on the site as they are made from C A's measurements ect ect, anyhow first impressive is just how substantial these hoses are and the quality really is fabulous.

why did i go for these uprated hoses?? well i just wanted to see how far i could take a brake upgrade without buying a 4k BBK, so the plan is braided lines, racing fluid and aggressive street/ track pads.

the motivation to chage the brake lines???....

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319949&highlight=spa+brake+failure

notice the giant blister in the stock brake line, an extreme case but im running alot more power so my brakes get more of a pounding. When i get back later i will post some detail pics and a goodridge part number so you can get them direct from them ;-)

byron
 
I'm not surprised, after all you are stopping a 1600kg car with single-pot callipers and chocolate teapot pads.

My first mods to any car was always brakes, followed by suspension, and finally power mods - after all, if I can cook brakes with standard levels of power, then trying to scrub off extra speed will only show up the shortfalls even more quickly.

But don't forget, the M3 was not built as a track car - despite the ///Marketing - and will never perform on track as well as a track car. I'm also sure BMW never envisages people driving their road cars at 10/10ths every weekend. It's no better on track than a yank muscle car, and I agree the older ///Ms had better track manners/preparation than the newer models - which are plainly not proper ///M cars anymore.

BTW, stickier tyres will only compound the braking problems as you're carrying more speed into the braking area (due to carrying more speed out of the previous corners), and you're getting more grip from the tyres in the braking area before they give up. I could go all day in my 3.8 M5 (standard 4-pot floating 343mm discs) when I was on PS2s, but only 20 minutes when on tarmac rally (not road legal) or P-Zero C tyres.

Do the custom-CA hoses have a silicon sheath over the braiding like the newer Goodridge ones do?
 
I have also went down the st/steel,braided hoses route,but opted for hel,which are meant to be just as good.
i will be intereted to see what u think,when they are ftd;as i intend doing similar as yourself. :thumbsup:

Although my car is std at min(power wise,anyway),i hope/intend to get an ess stage2 supercaharger kit ftd in the future/money permitting!(been wanting to fro 2 of the last 4yrs of ownership/just spent it getting m,arried instead,haha)
,And have gone for larger dia.325mm(oe 330mm om 2005 3.0) Tarox discs,with larger oem/ate calipers to suit. mine are being ftd as i post :)
 
aggreed the stickier tyres definatly cause an issue..... BTW i wasnt in no way infering the link i posted was an issue with the ///M brakes, it was just an example of what EXTREME conditions and abuse can do to these stock units.

The C A ones were manufactured by goodridge 1 week ago using the oem rubber hoses as patterns, and yes they have the hard plastic sheath over them as they were only made a few days ago!! full pics when i get home for your viewing.

with my power upgrades i wanted to really get these lines as a minium with decent pads and fluid, suspension wise my stock units have only 10k miles and i will upgrade as they get saggier, but i actually love the stock setup so im in no hurry to swap these yet.
 
mmm-five said:
I'm not surprised, after all you are stopping a 1600kg car with single-pot callipers and chocolate teapot pads
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to be fair m-5 the m3 is a bloody 60k car!! i expect better than single pot calipers, ///M car should ALL have a minimum on 4 pot calipers, at least they will cope with more heat.
 
craig3.0 said:
I have also went down the st/steel,braided hoses route,but opted for hel,which are meant to be just as good.
i will be intereted to see what u think,when they are ftd;as i intend doing similar as yourself. :thumbsup:

Although my car is std at min(power wise,anyway),i hope/intend to get an ess stage2 supercaharger kit ftd in the future/money permitting!(been wanting to fro 2 of the last 4yrs of ownership/just spent it getting m,arried instead,haha)
,And have gone for larger dia.325mm(oe 330mm om 2005 3.0) Tarox discs,with larger oem/ate calipers to suit. mine are being ftd as i post :)
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ive drive an twin srew car and the torque....... wow.... blew me away!!
 
supercharged z4m killing it brakes!! they actually set on fire on this one!! lol, hes even got a vid of al the action!!!

http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=481773
 
m-5 also the plastic sheathing over the top of the braiding add quite a bit of rigidity to the actually line, they are quality items, very pleased with them.
 
Beedub said:
to be fair m-5 the m3 is a bloody 60k car!! i expect better than single pot calipers, ///M car should ALL have a minimum on 4 pot calipers, at least they will cope with more heat.
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I completely agree that it should have better brakes as standard, and that's it's clearly not value for money.

My e34 M5 was £52k back in in 1994, but at least that had 4-pots (plus promlematic & expensive EDC - just like the £3k option available on the new M3, which owners are soon going to realise was a mistake).

It's not just BMW who do this, as there are plenty of people with Porsches/Lamborghinis/Astons that complain that their cars are not up to a bit of track work.

It's purely down to people's expectations, as when I buy a ///M car it's for the fast road thrills/handling/performance it delivers with the opportunity to do a track day or two.

The way BMW are going with their ///M range means that there'll soon be no differentiator between the marques, and it'll just be a style/cosmetic choice between Jag/Audi/BMW/AMG/Alpina V8s - even now, the Alpina B5S/B6S/B3S bi-turbo's are the much better proposition than their ///M branded counterparts.

Beedub said:
m-5 also the plastic sheathing over the top of the braiding add quite a bit of rigidity to the actually line, they are quality items, very pleased with them.
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That's good news, and was what I was expecting as I know Goodridge have been offering these coated versions for a while now, and you don't want to know how many times I've seen VR6/M5 owners with the older style, plain braided lines who've never cleaned them and wondered why their brakes have suddenly failed :thumbsup:
 
After thoughts since fitting??? I'm thinking about gettingbthese pads and fluid for my ring trip this year as can't afford to go fit the ap's until bonus time next year.

What pads and fluid did you go for???
 
hi pope i went to a Full AP bbk front and rear so cant comment on the SS lines as an individual, i can however say teamed with my AP BBK, pagids and AP racing dot 5.1 my brake pedal is solid!!
On a stock vehicle, some proper pads, good fluid and SS lines will really make a nice usuable difference imo.
 
Argh I see, no wonder the post went quiet quickly. lol.

Whats the deal with the AP kit and other versions fitting the Z.

There is a set of CSL discs on ebay at present, but then you would need to buy AP calipers and pads etc I pressume.

I will get the lines and fluid and possibly some pagid this week, and fit them before the ring trip, but would like to look at some disc upgrades.
 
I had a set of Goodridge braided hoses fatigue and blow out under braking on a previous car - keep checking them carefully at all service intervals guys!!! Just because they are braided doesn't mean they necessarily last any longer :)
 
Alastair said:
I had a set of Goodridge braided hoses fatigue and blow out under braking on a previous car - keep checking them carefully at all service intervals guys!!! Just because they are braided doesn't mean they necessarily last any longer :)
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agree'd, everything imo needs to be checked periodically, my car is as wel speak on stands in the garage, wheels off, im slowly working around with my Tq settings list re-torquing things, i cant believe how loose some items have been.........

byron
 
Alastair said:
I had a set of Goodridge braided hoses fatigue and blow out under braking on a previous car - keep checking them carefully at all service intervals guys!!! Just because they are braided doesn't mean they necessarily last any longer :)
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Completely agree, but I bet they the old style ones where the braid was open to the elements. The new style ones that have silicon sheath/tube over them.

I've had both, and I much prefer the latter ones - particularly as you can colour-code them
 
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