Getting 108's refurbed...

[S3NYR]

Hi mate,

I still have the beautiful black 224s on my car that you sold me a while ago... Just looking to get my old 108s back in good condition as a nice second set, or maybe sell them on, who knows :driving:

They were great in black i have to agree , not everyones bag but i thought they were stunning

If you have your 108s apart theres a couple of places i use that will do them for you

Those are the ones Look great on the car too..

Wheels arent split at the moment, might give it a go. Just heard it can be a pain in the neck :headbang:

 

[Ducklakeview]

Ok, so City Powder Coating in Birmingham can do the wheels, IF I split them, on a same day service for £35 per wheel, that's for a strip, blast, repairs and powder coat, which seem reasonable to me...

Couple of questions that I presume Mr Wilks can answer...

What size are the bolts?
I believe the front and rear centres are different, are they marked up?
Will the powdercoat make it difficult to get the centres back in, not sure if they are "loose" and centred by the bolts, or an interference fit?

And finally, is it worth all that @rseing around when the place in Manchester have quoted me £300 all in?

Just weighing up the pro's and con's as it's not really about money, but the fact that I like to do things myself, as I trust NO-ONE to work on my cars...

Mike

 

[M1ghty_m0use]

I'd take the 300 offer as that's quite cheap for a split rim refurb to start with ,splitting can be a pain, bolts can be hard to remove if corroded +if your really unlucky bolts can sheer . Also at the end they should re torque them properly for you

I think your from What you said thats both parts powder coated so that would be my option if you Diamond polish and lacquer the outer rim potentially in 12 months time I'll be back to square one with the lacquer peeling and oxidisation

 

[Greg 01]

Don't do it ducklakeview.
You may regret it I certainly have .!
Was quoted 320 but ended up paying a whole lot less because they didn't do them right .
Don't want to give the whole sorry saga on here. :thumbsdown: .
Greg

 

[Ducklakeview]

Don't do it ducklakeview.
You may regret it I certainly have .!
Was quoted 320 but ended up paying a whole lot less because they didn't do them right .
Don't want to give the whole sorry saga on here. :thumbsdown: .
Greg

One to avoid then? Although I'd be posting the details, so someone else doesn't fall foul...

Looks like a trip to Birmingham with 8 bits of wheels may be on the cards...

Mike

 

[Greg 01]

There is a thread someplace for good or bad
Traders I will be putting it in there .
I read all the reviews for the company I could find lots of good reviews .right on my doorstep
They offered to do the mv2 wheels I have just
Taken off my car for free .
I declined their offer .

 

[Ducklakeview]

There is a thread someplace for good or bad
Traders I will be putting it in there .
I read all the reviews for the company I could find lots of good reviews .right on my doorstep
They offered to do the mv2 wheels I have just
Taken off my car for free .
I declined their offer .

I'm getting confused now :|

Was it this place that cocked your's up? http://www.autowheelsmanchester.co.uk/

Mike

 

[biojo]

think i paid 560 but i had all new bolts as previous owner had a cheapo refurb done

When i first got them back there was some loctite on one of bolts, so they sorted that. Then i found a small patch in another bolt hole that was missed, So they tried to do a repair which was worse. In end re did that whole wheel and all is good now

 

[bmwaddict]

Been quoted £430 all in for a full refurb, or straight swap service by First Aid wheels in London, my mate has used them and had great results. They have refurbished 108s in silver or shadow chrome type colour centres, so will do a straight swap and change your tyres over there and then, I am tempted as I know the quality of their work is very good.

 

[mr wilks]

Op
i have a set of 108s to collect from refurb on Friday , split , dipped , blasted & powdercoated in mirror chrome outer rim with grey stars .
With 2 different metals the 108s are always a gamble from removing bolts to finished article
Won't know of any imperfections in finish until collected but will be selling them no more than £400 ? May be a easier route then just flog your own ? Or possibly sort a PX deal out ?

 

[Ducklakeview]

Op
i have a set of 108s to collect from refurb on Friday , split , dipped , blasted & powdercoated in mirror chrome outer rim with grey stars .
With 2 different metals the 108s are always a gamble from removing bolts to finished article
Won't know of any imperfections in finish until collected but will be selling them no more than £400 ? May be a easier route then just flog your own ? Or possibly sort a PX deal out ?

Would have been interested, BUT I'm swaying towards shadow chrome ...

Thanks though.

Mike

 

[mr wilks]

No sweat , personally id go with original look or black stars on a Sterling grey but keep us posted how you get on

 

[Ducklakeview]

No sweat , personally id go with original look or black stars on a Sterling grey but keep us posted how you get on

Mr Wilks, when yo get your's done, do they powdercoat the hub mating area, or mask it off? I ask as I can envisage a problem if the coating is not very uniform in that area, or it breaks up under the load..

Any chance of you sharing who you use for the powdercoating, as 'd prefer someone recommended?

Mike

 

[mr wilks]

No sweat , personally id go with original look or black stars on a Sterling grey but keep us posted how you get on

Mr Wilks, when yo get your's done, do they powdercoat the hub mating area, or mask it off? I ask as I can envisage a problem if the coating is not very uniform in that area, or it breaks up under the load..

Any chance of you sharing who you use for the powdercoating, as 'd prefer someone recommended?

Mike

Not sure you can mask any area with the pc process :? all the wheels ive ever had done that way have come back all surfaces covered
Rather not recommend any companies tbh as I wouldn't want to be involved with any negative downsides should the work be disappointing

 

[Ducklakeview]

No sweat , personally id go with original look or black stars on a Sterling grey but keep us posted how you get on

Mr Wilks, when yo get your's done, do they powdercoat the hub mating area, or mask it off? I ask as I can envisage a problem if the coating is not very uniform in that area, or it breaks up under the load..

Any chance of you sharing who you use for the powdercoating, as 'd prefer someone recommended?

Mike

Not sure you can mask any area with the pc process :? all the wheels ive ever had done that way have come back all surfaces covered
Rather not recommend any companies tbh as I wouldn't want to be involved with any negative downsides should the work be disappointing

Fair enough, but I am thinking that after stripping and refurb etc, could they not just mask off the flat hub mating face before applying the powder, as it's done cold? Then remove masking and bake..

Mike

 

[Ducklakeview]

Just seen a post where Mr Wilks points out these MV3 reps from CM Wheels - http://www.cmwheels.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_67_68_311&product_id=956

I like the look of those, and for the price, I may as well either keep the 108's for spare or sell them on (Mr Wilks?) has anyone had these reps? Good/bad? I take it the std BMW centre caps will fit, and that they are the correct offsets to replace staggered 108's, as these I think will stick out further?

I believe the 108's are;
8x18 front ET 47
8.5x18 back ET 50

Whereas the reps are;
Front - 18x8 ET35
Rear - 18x8.5 ET37

Damn, more choice...

Mike

 

[Ducklakeview]

Ok, so I've um'd, ah'd and generally deliberated on this. City Powder Coaters sounded like they'd do a good job, but they are 100 miles away, and if it ain't right, or I have problems later on...

Local place someone mentioned on here (Ashton Powder Coating) have quoted me £40 per wheel without splitting (what is the point) or the same if I split them, although they then can't remove/replace the tyres, which was an extra £10 a corner anyway. However, the "obsessive" in me still doesn't like the thought of someone else rebuilding my wheels, when I could do it myself. (sad I know, but that's me)

So... I am going to split them myself, after having the tyres removed by my local trusted fitter.

With this in mind, I thought I'd make sure the bolts will actually come out first. So tonight I removed and replaced, 4 at a time the bolts from the O/S/F wheel. I already had an M8 long spline tool, which was brand new. All 20 came out easily :trampoline:

Tapped the bit into the bolt with a lump hammer to give it a shock, and also clean the head. At this point I realised that the heads had prev been painted/powder coated




Cleaned up the heads and corrosion that was present in the middle of each, I presume where water has gotten between the mating surfaces.




Judging by the "sanded" bit on some of the bolts, the prev refurb has been a quick fix, prob just before the guy I bought it from purchased it, around 3yrs ago..



So I managed to get them all out and back in, blowing out the holes with the compressor, a good amount of dust came from each!

A spattering of copaslip on each, and back in. Torqued them to 40nm, and then to 45nm, which was a bit much for one of them.. I felt the thread give, so I've ordered an M7 x 1.0 helicoil kit.. I think I'll stick to just under 40nm unless anyone knows the recommended torque? I think the copaslip may have allowed the thread to give, whereas I'll be using threadlock when finally rebuilding.

I plan on removing and refitting the other 60 :x bolts later this week, so at least I know once I have the tyres off, I'll be able to split them.

Then it's off to the powder coaters for a strip, repair and coat, just need to make my mind up on colour choice now :!:

Oh, and I must order an M7 bottoming tap to clean the threads of powdercoat..

Will post as these progress..

Mike

 

[Ducklakeview]

Ok,

So that's all 80 bolts removed, cleaned on the bench grinder with a wire wheel fitted, threads blown out and lubed and then refitted, torqued to 20nm. At least I know now that they will all come out when I get my wheels done next week.

I also split one just to see how easy it was to get it apart and back together. It looks like there is no powder coat/paint on the mating edges so no wonder they corrode!






Mike

 

[Rialas]

Yikes, you've made all that effort, I'd leave them split, get them done, and then put them back together after the refurb.

 

[Ducklakeview]

Yikes, you've made all that effort, I'd leave them split, get them done, and then put them back together after the refurb.

Only split the one, just wanted to be sure the bolts would all come out. Waiting for a forecast of rain all week to get them done as I'll miss not being able to drive her!

Mike