Front Bumper cost/rescue

[Deepseaskateboard]

Yep, they are a god send and will be very valuable in preventing prison time once the highway code and associated road regulations change later this month

Care to elaborate?

I wouldn’t do too well in Prison.

Watch both of these, everyone should be aware of the info given freely here

https://youtu.be/4eCJE2bfdd4

https://youtu.be/tO69N9G_9Iw

Ah I see, seems mostly common sense. I have seen some right muppets overtaking cyclists, like they must be overtaken at all costs, where as I treat them as a slow moving vehicle and wouldnt just drive out into oncoming traffic, as many do.

Same with pedestrians, if they look like they might run across a road, best to anticipate and slow down.

Always have to be courteous to horse riders, as being loud and fast could frighten their animals, in the rare situation I have to drive past one.

I think the changes are largely because no one seems to know how to drive anymore!

The bit which seems a bit like a lawyer payday tho is people waiting to cross at an unmarked junction. I can see some scenarios here where people could be waiting to run in front of slow moving cars for profit…. At expense of their legs.
I suppose though it will likely be as it is now, with the vast majority of people looking out for traffic and not wanting to be hit by a car!

 

[Zed Baron]

I don't think anyone knows how to use the roads, the amount of cyclists I see bunched up in groups taking over the width of the road, pedestrians running across the road near crossings (isn't that jay walking in the US) and I've stopped driving up to Loch Lomond at the weekends because of some of the scary antics of some bikers, overtaking on blind bends etc. I nearly saw a horrid accident on a very busy country road with an old guy riding along on his invalid scooter and then turning right without any indication causing three cars to do emergency stops. My pet hate are people that have 'Baby on Board' signs on the back windows of their cars and then drive like utter tw4ts, my progeny is so important but don't give a toss for anyone else. I can see (especially with the dawning of electric car period) that all of cars will be fitted with cameras as an insurance stipulation

 

[BeardyJon]

How is a driver supposed to determine whether a pedestrian is "likely" to cross the road when they're approaching a junction? What happened to teaching people to look both ways before crossing the street and waiting until the traffic is clear or the crossing signals its safe to cross?

So on top of paying attention to the junction and other road users, we also have to look around the junction to see if there's any pedestrians approaching it and determine whether they're going to walk out into the road or not? Ridiculous.

Obviously, I'm not opposed to making sure I'm not causing any danger on the road and taking care, but what I oppose is formalising "my safety is someone else's responsibility" in law. If you're a pedestrian, you are responsible for yourself.

Literally just last week, within the space of 90 seconds, I was driving through Stockbridge and I saw a cyclist go through 3 sets of red lights, then another cyclist across the road somehow fall off his bike into the road, then a couple walked into the road in front of me without looking, and then as I turned a corner there was a woman driving down the wrong side of the road at me. Am I supposed to be responsible for all of that?!

 

[mcbutler]

How is a driver supposed to determine whether a pedestrian is "likely" to cross the road when they're approaching a junction? What happened to teaching people to look both ways before crossing the street and waiting until the traffic is clear or the crossing signals its safe to cross?

'How is a driver supposed to determine whether a pedestrian is "likely" to cross the road when they're approaching a junction? What happened to teaching people to look both ways before crossing the street and waiting until the traffic is clear or the crossing signals its safe to cross?"
This is precisely the issue, essentially what is happening here is UK gov legislating to make YOU responsible for the safety of other people when you cannot assure it. It gives power to what we all know are the worst group of road users (cyclists) complete nutters (motorcyclists) and pedestrians (witless phone swiping earpod wearing fektards).
We all look out for others naturally, its human nature to do so. But to make one group responsible in law for the behaviour of others is obviously wrong. We all make our personal transport choices freely and we should therefore accept the risks associated with that choice freely also.

 

[Silverstar]

How is a driver supposed to determine whether a pedestrian is "likely" to cross the road when they're approaching a junction? What happened to teaching people to look both ways before crossing the street and waiting until the traffic is clear or the crossing signals its safe to cross?

'How is a driver supposed to determine whether a pedestrian is "likely" to cross the road when they're approaching a junction? What happened to teaching people to look both ways before crossing the street and waiting until the traffic is clear or the crossing signals its safe to cross?"
This is precisely the issue, essentially what is happening here is UK gov legislating to make YOU responsible for the safety of other people when you cannot assure it. It gives power to what we all know are the worst group of road users (cyclists) complete nutters (motorcyclists) and pedestrians (witless phone swiping earpod wearing fektards).
We all look out for others naturally, its human nature to do so. But to make one group responsible in law for the behaviour of others is obviously wrong. We all make our personal transport choices freely and we should therefore accept the risks associated with that choice freely also.

The UK and other European countries need to take leaf from the US's book and introduce Jay walking as law that applies to pedestrians.

 

[mcbutler]

How is a driver supposed to determine whether a pedestrian is "likely" to cross the road when they're approaching a junction? What happened to teaching people to look both ways before crossing the street and waiting until the traffic is clear or the crossing signals its safe to cross?

'How is a driver supposed to determine whether a pedestrian is "likely" to cross the road when they're approaching a junction? What happened to teaching people to look both ways before crossing the street and waiting until the traffic is clear or the crossing signals its safe to cross?"
This is precisely the issue, essentially what is happening here is UK gov legislating to make YOU responsible for the safety of other people when you cannot assure it. It gives power to what we all know are the worst group of road users (cyclists) complete nutters (motorcyclists) and pedestrians (witless phone swiping earpod wearing fektards).
We all look out for others naturally, its human nature to do so. But to make one group responsible in law for the behaviour of others is obviously wrong. We all make our personal transport choices freely and we should therefore accept the risks associated with that choice freely also.

The UK and other European countries need to take leaf from the US's book and introduce Jay walking as law that applies to pedestrians.

The punishment for JW is a tiny fine or more usually a telling off/written warning, not much of a detterent

 

[Silverstar]

The punishment for JW is a tiny fine or more usually a telling off/written warning, not much of a detterent

Could always improvise and hand them jail time of 1 month.

 

[JamiesZ4]

The punishment for JW is a tiny fine or more usually a telling off/written warning, not much of a detterent

Could always improvise and hand them jail time of 1 month.

LOL then next month everyone complains of living in a totalitarian regime. where folk are terrified to cross the road in case it’s viewed as JW and they get a month in the same cell as Big Dan’s cell buddy

My view is and has always been that our roads are for the benefit of vehicles and that cyclists and pedestrians stray onto those roads with the necessary precaution reserved for rocking alongside numerous 1.5 tonnes+ of constantly moving metal whilst not constantly getting upset about it, or to put it another way, it’s the same reason that people don’t go on safari and then jump out of the Jeep’s to pet the lions - some natural common sense needs to be applied rather than assuming the vehicles need to give way for Sebastian on his cycle towing his kid to school behind him during rush hour…