Front brake pads service

Smartbear said:
greg1953 said:
I'm about to do the pads & discs on the front of my '07 Z4, do I need to replace the sensor when I do this ?
Greg

Is the warning light lit on the dash?
Rob
No, not yet, the discs are a bit scabby and I'm fussy about brakes but a bit confused about replacing the sensor, didn't do it on other cars.
Greg
 
kinger said:
Euro Car Parts,
Pagid Pads for £52.99 Product Code: 101110528
Pagid Wear Sensor £14.99 Product Code: 106110808

For the next 7 days add code XMAS to the checkout and get a discount of £22.09, so both items for a total of 45.89 inc VAT...bargain

2 hours work at home including tea and biscuit break, toilet break, and a chat over the fence

Perfect - thanks very much for this.
 
I'm not a fan of Pagid pads as theyve been known to squeak after a while. I prefer Textar which were also recommended by protech cars ( an Indy the other side of Aylesbury). They are similar cost from ECP as I bought a set for my 23i just before I sold it last month. In fact I still think they are in my shed somewhere lol
 
greg1953 said:
Smartbear said:
greg1953 said:
I'm about to do the pads & discs on the front of my '07 Z4, do I need to replace the sensor when I do this ?
Greg

Is the warning light lit on the dash?
Rob
No, not yet, the discs are a bit scabby and I'm fussy about brakes but a bit confused about replacing the sensor, didn't do it on other cars.
Greg

If the warning hasn't triggered you can use the sensor again with the new pads :)
Rob
 
Pastry said:
I'm not a fan of Pagid pads as theyve been known to squeak after a while. I prefer Textar which were also recommended by protech cars ( an Indy the other side of Aylesbury). They are similar cost from ECP as I bought a set for my 23i just before I sold it last month. In fact I still think they are in my shed somewhere lol

I always used Pagids on my Porsches, they come on there as OE but i have also bought Textars in the past and had Pagids in the boxes, they and other brands, are all made by the same company anyhow http://www.tmdfriction.com/
I'd go for either based on the best deal
Mike
 
Smartbear said:
greg1953 said:
Smartbear said:
Is the warning light lit on the dash?
Rob
No, not yet, the discs are a bit scabby and I'm fussy about brakes but a bit confused about replacing the sensor, didn't do it on other cars.
Greg

If the warning hasn't triggered you can use the sensor again with the new pads :)
Rob

What warning light is it? The one in the image above or another one? Just wondering if I will get away without changing the sensor.
 
When i had my z4 coupe insp 2 done,the indy garage I used highlighted that the pads and discs were between 80-85% worn, they stated that its 1.5 hours labour to replace all discs and pads, thats from the official bmw site, so if its 45 mins to do front pads and discs must be less than 30 mins to do the pads?
 
Bluecat said:
When i had my z4 coupe insp 2 done,the indy garage I used highlighted that the pads and discs were between 80-85% worn, they stated that its 1.5 hours labour to replace all discs and pads, thats from the official bmw site, so if its 45 mins to do front pads and discs must be less than 30 mins to do the pads?

At my shop.....
Drive car in
Put lift legs under it
Reposition car because legs wont go under pads unless its in the perfect position!!
Find locking wheel nut
Phone owner to ask where locking wheel nut is....
Raise car
Remove both front wheels
Remove caliper and hang it from the coil spring on a metal hook.
Spray caliper, and especially piston dust boot with brake clean.
Clamp off flexible line and loosen bleed nipple, attach tube and press piston in.
Tighten bleed nipple.
Remove pad carrier bracket and media blast areas where pad contacts.
Check any sliders and boots are free to move
Clean any metal shims if present
Grease areas on pad carrier where pad goes
reinstall pad carrier and torque bolts to spec
Sliver of grease on new pads and install (not forgetting pad wear sensor)
Reattach caliper and torque bolts up.
Repeat on other side
Spray aluminium antiseize grease on hub where wheels contact
Wheels back on
Lower to floor
Torque wheel nuts up
Put locking wheel nut back where I found it (cleaning it first)
Check brake fluid level
Wipe mucky hand marks off wheels
press pedal a few times to position pads in correct place
Remove overalls........wash hands, quick test drive
Reset any service indicators
Phone customer to say car is ready


All that in 30 minutes????? YEAH RIGHT!!!.......And i still only charge 40 to 45 for fitting pads.

So everybody wants a quality job on their car, but most are not prepared to pay for the time it actually take to do this quality job.

Thank god I was a teacher before this, and not a mechanic to earn a living.

I only take certain jobs on, but all are done with great care. But if someone says to me you only need 30 mins to do the pads....guess what............take it somewhere else then.

Find a good Indy to do this job. One you can trust. BMW are taking the p*ss to charge what they do.
Enough said.

Andy
 
andyfanshawe said:
Bluecat said:
When i had my z4 coupe insp 2 done,the indy garage I used highlighted that the pads and discs were between 80-85% worn, they stated that its 1.5 hours labour to replace all discs and pads, thats from the official bmw site, so if its 45 mins to do front pads and discs must be less than 30 mins to do the pads?

At my shop.....
Drive car in
Put lift legs under it
Reposition car because legs wont go under pads unless its in the perfect position!!
Find locking wheel nut
Phone owner to ask where locking wheel nut is....
Raise car
Remove both front wheels
Remove caliper and hang it from the coil spring on a metal hook.
Spray caliper, and especially piston dust boot with brake clean.
Clamp off flexible line and loosen bleed nipple, attach tube and press piston in.
Tighten bleed nipple.
Remove pad carrier bracket and media blast areas where pad contacts.
Check any sliders and boots are free to move
Clean any metal shims if present
Grease areas on pad carrier where pad goes
reinstall pad carrier and torque bolts to spec
Sliver of grease on new pads and install (not forgetting pad wear sensor)
Reattach caliper and torque bolts up.
Repeat on other side
Spray aluminium antiseize grease on hub where wheels contact
Wheels back on
Lower to floor
Torque wheel nuts up
Put locking wheel nut back where I found it (cleaning it first)
Check brake fluid level
Wipe mucky hand marks off wheels
press pedal a few times to position pads in correct place
Remove overalls........wash hands, quick test drive
Reset any service indicators
Phone customer to say car is ready


All that in 30 minutes????? YEAH RIGHT!!!.......And i still only charge 40 to 45 for fitting pads.

So everybody wants a quality job on their car, but most are not prepared to pay for the time it actually take to do this quality job.

Thank god I was a teacher before this, and not a mechanic to earn a living.

I only take certain jobs on, but all are done with great care. But if someone says to me you only need 30 mins to do the pads....guess what............take it somewhere else then.

Find a good Indy to do this job. One you can trust. BMW are taking the p*ss to charge what they do.
Enough said.

Andy
Thats what you do, and pretty much thats what I do when working on brakes either car or bike but there is no way your normal dealer mechanic goes to all that trouble on everybodys brakes.
I have no doubt that pads could be changed in 30 mins but its whether or not you should change them in that time is the question.
 
I did say originally
2 hours at home, you have to move cars around, find your jack, find the jack points have tea, find your sockets, find the one that you need that is missing, and all the above.
Go to halfords and get the grease you forgot you needed
Etc etc....its not a 30 min job for a home mechanic
 
kinger said:
I did say originally
2 hours at home, you have to move cars around, find your jack, find the jack points have tea, find your sockets, find the one that you need that is missing, and all the above.
Go to halfords and get the grease you forgot you needed
Etc etc....its not a 30 min job for a home mechanic
Then find the disc locating screw won't come out.
Greg
 
As an old man with many years mechanical experience I can state with absolute certainty that you cannot change front pads in 30 minutes if you are doing a proper job. There is a lot of cleaning required before applying brake grease to ensure pads can more freely, skip all this and you will regret it in due course. I would say at least an hour a side unless you like a bodge job.
 
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