Fracking...

lacroupade

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.....since its now in the UK, heading for a shale bed near you, its well worth watching a documentary called Gasland, currently airing on CurrentTV on satellite TV.

I sat through it this morning and was stunned at what it does and what big business has got away with in the US yet again, and what it may still do to massive watersheds that serve NY for example..... :(

Highly recommended perspective that totally undermines the bullshit "its all OK lads, trust us" view of industry and government in the UK.
 
They inject water and chemicals into shale beds to force out natural gas.....but the chemicals they use in the first place, as well as the by-products (including what the industry vaguely calles "produced water" (otherwise known as toxic soup!), find their way quickly into groundwater, polluting wells and water supplies in a very serious way.

The documentary showed a number of people who were able to ignite, and in some cases even explode, their tap water. Sounds funny but the chemicals in the water that cause that are extremely dangerous to health.

That and oil companies riding rough-shod over peoples rights and natural resources really piss me off big time.

Be interested to hear what the US members think or know of the subject....
 
Hydraulic fracturing is the propagation of fractures in a rock layer caused by the presence of a pressurized fluid. Hydraulic fractures form naturally, as in the case of veins or dikes, and is one means by which gas and petroleum from source rocks may migrate to reservoir rocks.

However oil and gas companies may attempt to accelerate this process in order to release petroleum, natural gas, coal seam gas, or other substances for extraction, where the technique is often called fracking[a] or hydrofracking.[1] This type of fracturing, known colloquially as a frack job (or frac job),[2][3] is done from a wellbore drilled into reservoir rock formations. The energy from the injection of a highly-pressurized fracking fluid[4] creates new channels in the rock which can increase the extraction rates and ultimate recovery of fossil fuels. When done in already highly-permeable reservoirs such as sandstone-based wells, the technique is known as well stimulation. Operators typically try to maintain fracture width or slow its decline following treatment by introducing a proppant[5] into the injected fluid, a material, such as grains of sand, ceramic, or other particulates, that prevent the fractures from closing when the injection is stopped. Consideration of proppant strengths and prevention of proppant failure becomes more important at deeper depths where pressure and stresses on fractures are higher.

Distinction can be made between low-volume hydraulic fracturing used to stimulate high-permeability reservoirs, which may consume typically 20,000 to 80,000 gallons of fluid per well, with high-volume hydraulic fracturing, used in the completion of tight gas and shale gas wells; high-volume hydraulic fracturing can use as much as two to three million gallons of fluid per well.[6] This latter practice has come under scrutiny internationally due to concerns about the environmental impact, health and safety, and has been suspended or banned in some countries.[7
 
Fracking .... thought id heard the word somewhere before.

Im sure I read sometime in the last 6 months that a site had been identified that was suitable for fracking somewhere north west ish.
Dim memory of lancashire or merseyside maybe? :o
 
The volumes of water are pretty academic, the effect is the same in both cases, just faster and greater in the latter.

Even with the low-volume process, the number of wells is very high, so the net effect is the same.

It also has a major effect on air quality.

No need to take my word for this stuff, the Gasland documentary is pretty convincing and detailed. Just watch it.
 
i think they actually started, but didn't the vibrations affect some peoples houses, so they had to stop...?
 
jonnyfive said:
Hydraulic fracturing is the propagation of fractures in a rock layer caused by the presence of a pressurized fluid. Hydraulic fractures form naturally, as in the case of veins or dikes, and is one means by which gas and petroleum from source rocks may migrate to reservoir rocks.

However oil and gas companies may attempt to accelerate this process in order to release petroleum, natural gas, coal seam gas, or other substances for extraction, where the technique is often called fracking[a] or hydrofracking.[1] This type of fracturing, known colloquially as a frack job (or frac job),[2][3] is done from a wellbore drilled into reservoir rock formations. The energy from the injection of a highly-pressurized fracking fluid[4] creates new channels in the rock which can increase the extraction rates and ultimate recovery of fossil fuels. When done in already highly-permeable reservoirs such as sandstone-based wells, the technique is known as well stimulation. Operators typically try to maintain fracture width or slow its decline following treatment by introducing a proppant[5] into the injected fluid, a material, such as grains of sand, ceramic, or other particulates, that prevent the fractures from closing when the injection is stopped. Consideration of proppant strengths and prevention of proppant failure becomes more important at deeper depths where pressure and stresses on fractures are higher.

Distinction can be made between low-volume hydraulic fracturing used to stimulate high-permeability reservoirs, which may consume typically 20,000 to 80,000 gallons of fluid per well, with high-volume hydraulic fracturing, used in the completion of tight gas and shale gas wells; high-volume hydraulic fracturing can use as much as two to three million gallons of fluid per well.[6] This latter practice has come under scrutiny internationally due to concerns about the environmental impact, health and safety, and has been suspended or banned in some countries.[7

Wiki?
 
In Battlestar Galacticia they say frack instead of fu*k.

These crazy Americans, swearing is deprecated and poisoning the groundwater is profitable.

Not that I approve of swearing either, it is wrong.
 
They started in Lancashire, got earth tremors and it was stopped. Personally I hope this gets completely banned. I saw a similar program on TV a while back. Shocking. Our government would sell its soul to an energy company if it had one left to sell... :headbang:
 
Stuart Truman said:
They started in Lancashire, got earth tremors and it was stopped. Personally I hope this gets completely banned. I saw a similar program on TV a while back. Shocking. Our government would sell its soul to an energy company if it had one left to sell... :headbang:

Was it not suspended pending further investigation to confirm there was a link beteen the tremors and fracking taking place. Have not heard any recent updates.

Didn't see the programme myself but personally feel our island is to far too small and heavily populated for such activity.
 
One real shocker was that the commentary was saying how a lot of the petrochemicals being forced into the water are also used in the plastics industry.....and at one farm, the owner ran a blowtorch over the surface of a livestock water trough and pieces of pseudo clingfilm started to form wherever the flame touched the water!

CurrentTV is running some really excellent documentaries lately. Last night I watched 'Jesus Camp' - I'm not even gonna start on that one for obvious reasons, but what a scary film!!
 
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