For all the bikers out there, watch out! Nutters are everywhere!

DPG said:
Think they are both dicks.

It really annoys me when riders squeeze through traffic nearly clipping wing mirrors just to get to the front of the queue
I agree , they are both dicks , but the self styled road warrior is possibly the worse of them , the main reason he does it is because he hasn't had a bat in the mouth yet , I would imagine when that day comes he may stop his one man crusade
 
mmm-five said:
Almost makes you think they deserve everything they get - but you'd probably see their parents on the news saying "Poor Tarquin. He was such a good boy, really responsible, wouldn't hurt a fly. But I think those dangerous drivers who crashed into him should be put in jail." :headbang:

Ah well, I suppose there are nutters driving all forms of transport, and they will always be the visible minority.

Very true. I have been chased down on my bike and in my TVR, both times I went straight to the police station. There are some crazies out there.

Personally I don't agree that "deserving what you get" is being chased down, then hit by a truck, for what was a bit of a sketchy maneuver that had no impact on the KTM guy. I would say that the guy filming needs some more training, his riding is sub-par at best. Had he been hit doing that right turn, it's all on his own head. He did crash his hire bike a few weeks into having it too.

It amazes me that some people get so frustrated by filtering bikes. So much so that they feel the need to abuse/chase them, what astounds me is that this guy used his truck to take the biker out. After reading comments on forums re. attitudes towards bikers, it does make me generally worried to go out sometimes, the aggression and intolerance that seemingly reasonable people can come up with towards bikers for no real reason other than "I don't like your choice of transport."

Having been knocked off by a taxi doing a U-Turn on a one way street (he though he could nip across a road and miss out a long 1 way system on a quiet Sunday evening), I don't think I deserved being on the floor, with my bike in bits. I didn't ask for him to be jailed or anything, just admit that he was in the wrong (which he did) and pay for my damages (which the insurance did, eventually). I would like to see the :censored: who took out the wing of my Elise (and whole rear clamshell) after 1 day of ownership charged.

I bet the guys you saw were from/going to the Ace cafe. Friday night is bikers night and just generally attracts 90% idiots. The one time I went I was almost taken out by similar whilst trying to leave. I stay well away from that. A couple of years ago I copped a load of abuse from another biker in Clapham for going slowly (25mph in traffic). Jeans, T shirt, 1000cc super bike, pops a wheelie on the other side of the road. Tool. Summer fair weather bikers (and I generalise here) are often the worst riders, you see them out every year, giving sensible riders a bad name.

That said, there was an article a few years back about a lad who's parents said exactly that, "lovely boy, kind hearted etc.. Recent father, loving partner" Killed on a stolen motorbike whilst joy riding with his mates after drinking... :headbang: If he was so nice, why had he stolen a bike and gone joy riding, instead of being with his kid?

Paulwiral, there is justice out there:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2009/july/jul16009-vigilante-biker-crashes-/



Anyhow I think I'll call it a day here on this. We will all agree to disagree on some points, I just hope that someone doesn't decide to try and take me out for filtering or similar because they dislike it.
 
Coming back to the filtering - I do hate it when I am at the front of a traffic light ready to go and a bike parks in front of me and faffing about when the lights change. It really annoys me as I was just looking forward to a bit of clear road.
 
pvr said:
Coming back to the filtering - I do hate it when I am at the front of a traffic light ready to go and a bike parks in front of me and faffing about when the lights change. It really annoys me as I was just looking forward to a bit of clear road.

At least most bikes get out of the way fairly swiftly. Far worse is when a cyclist has stopped beside you at a red light and the next cyclist rides round them to park in front of you (often followed by a third and fourth in rush hour). They then all pull away together and jostle one another for position at 15mph for the next 300m blocking reasonable progress for all motorised vehicles. The first cyclist is using their bit of the road, why can't the ensuing cyclists queue behind the first (as the cars do)?
 
What people need to remember is that not all bikers are the same, they are not all nutters flouting the law, wheelying and speeding everywhere without a thought for any other road user.
People only seem to remember the ones they have seen doing something wrong.
Is everybody who owns a sports car a twat? No, so why would everybody who owns a bike be one.

Lots of people seem to enjoy slagging bikers for being hooligans but even read some posts on this forum about what members have been up to in their cars in the past and they are definately not ones to be pointing the finger at others.

Is there a big difference between 5 or 6 bikes out on a run or 5 or 6 forum members out in their Z4s for a "hoon" or a "spirited drive"?

No.
 
But you have to compare the percentages though. From 1 million cars, there might be only a few % that behave like hooligans. From the much fewer bikers that are on the road, that percentage appears to be higher.
 
Paulwirral said:
DPG said:
Think they are both dicks.

It really annoys me when riders squeeze through traffic nearly clipping wing mirrors just to get to the front of the queue
I agree , they are both dicks , but the self styled road warrior is possibly the worse of them , the main reason he does it is because he hasn't had a bat in the mouth yet , I would imagine when that day comes he may stop his one man crusade

I agree. No need to chase after him for miles.
 
That could be true but you would also need to calculate the really terrible driving you see by some pensioners who only have a licence because they didnt really sit a test.
Im sure my grandpa told me years and years ago that if you wanted a licence to drive something, whether it was a car a bus or a tank, you only had to apply and you got it. Not sure if he was just spinning a yarn or not.
 
Another way to look at this is to consider the vast majority of bikers and drivers out there that keep to the rules of the road and make the system work - it's quite staggering really that, given the numbers using the road there aren't more issues, problems and accidents.

I have never seen driving like that displayed by the biker at the beginning of the vid - right turn from the left across the front of waiting traffic :cry: during any of the Forum organised runs I've been on - unarguably irresponsible riding - if the driving on Forum hoons was anything like this I wouldn't be taking part and wouldn't organise runs - no way would I want to be associated with that type or standard of riding/driving.

And yes I've made poor decisions and shown poor judgement - I'll put my hands up for that and learn from it. What do we learn from these postings I wonder? 'He said, she said, am I bothered' . . . . .bit of that mentality here?
 
In the 2nd vid, the nutter in the lorry has recognized the rider from the 1st vid and you can see he brakes sharply for no reason. He is a danger on the roads.
 
Wow. Just Wow.


Granted, the guy shouldn't of ridden down the outside if there was obviously a risk.. but that doesnt excuse the guys driving. I'd hope he lost his license, job and bike, the police should be doing something to that effect frankly.
 
slick said:
TitanTim said:
I think I might have a bit of Clarkeson in me in that I just don't see the point in motorbike ownership :|

Tim.

the acceleration of a 1000cc Sports bike is something to be experienced........never mind the top speeds that would put a few supercars to shame

+1. Biking isn't just a different league to cars, it's a different sport. 0-60 in 3 secs, easy 160mph plus. My bike cost me a few thousand pounds but is very happy head to head with 99% of supercars. It makes me smile when some Audi TT driver (or Zed driver for that matter) tries to 'jump you at the lights' and out drag you. Just goes to show that they (like Tim) really do not understand the capabilities of a sportsbike. It's sensory overload.-that's what's great. Typically a biker can stop and get a cup of tea before they catch up.

yes, in a car you can driver fearlessly on wet roundabouts. - But I have a £50k sportscar for wet days. :wink:
 
Mmm , I can think of another example of bike v car , neighbour over the road asks me for a lift back from the dealership a few mile away from where we live , I said no probs , last one there buys the breakfasts in the cafe over the the road , I watched him stop laughing at me in the mirror as I drove away :driving: he still had to put his leather play suit , boots and helmet on
Full English tastes even better when paid for by someone else :lol:
 
There have been a few comments about the guy going past the truck on the right between it and the barrier.
Im not sure if you all know but it is legal to filter through stationary traffic on a bike, there is no specific lane you must be in while doing this. Im also sure it is legal to filter while traffic is moving slowly.
I used to regularly filter to work for sometimes 5 miles or more at a time.
I didnt stick to splitting the same two lanes but would go where the largest gap was. If this was between the outside lane and the barrier because someone was trying to close a gap to stop you filtering that is where I would pass.
 
Correct, it is legal to filter. How you do it comes down to common sense, common courtesy and of course a thought for self preservation. I love filtering. I think i want to be Baron Von Grumble. 8)
 
Zed Five said:
Correct, it is legal to filter. How you do it comes down to common sense, common courtesy and of course a thought for self preservation. I love filtering. I think i want to be Baron Von Grumble. 8)
Theres something wrong with that guy.
He obviously has too much time and money at his disposal.
The video of him taking the brand new GSXR down a green lane is just stupid and only got worse when he continued through shin deep standing water until he dropped it.
 
He weedled his way into bmw and ktm. Free bikes all the way. Not sure about his opinions, but i like his filtering. - "pick a lane, Audi p****k". :D
 
Big fan of BvG here, videos are hillarious.

There arent that many videos this past year, i doubt he has too much time. And the GSXR greenlaning made me laugh quite a bit... why not, lifes too short!
 
Zed Five said:
slick said:
TitanTim said:
I think I might have a bit of Clarkeson in me in that I just don't see the point in motorbike ownership :|

Tim.

the acceleration of a 1000cc Sports bike is something to be experienced........never mind the top speeds that would put a few supercars to shame

+1. Biking isn't just a different league to cars, it's a different sport. 0-60 in 3 secs, easy 160mph plus. My bike cost me a few thousand pounds but is very happy head to head with 99% of supercars. It makes me smile when some Audi TT driver (or Zed driver for that matter) tries to 'jump you at the lights' and out drag you. Just goes to show that they (like Tim) really do not understand the capabilities of a sportsbike. It's sensory overload.-that's what's great. Typically a biker can stop and get a cup of tea before they catch up.

yes, in a car you can driver fearlessly on wet roundabouts. - But I have a £50k sportscar for wet days. :wink:

Yes a bike can outdrag a car but so what? is that the appeal? :lol: I probably look more at the negatives i.e. when your luck runs out your more likely to end up toast, thats probably the part that doesn't appeal along with the squeeky leathers 8) The speed bit is what annoys me most as many bikers don't seem to have the brain engaged to use it sensibly :)

Tim.
 
I guess it comes with maturity. We are all different. I love bikes, i dont like 4 cylinder bmw cars. However, i respect that some people do.
 
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