Flappy paddles

Hunter

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 notts/derby
What year did the flappy paddles change from both sides doing change up / down, to right to change up and left down?
 
Are the later ones a straight retro fit to the older cars?
 
Hunter said:
john-e89 said:
Pretty sure it was 2013.
Mine is a 2012 car pre LCI and it has them

Looks like they’ve been changed then, unless it was late 2012.

To Greg, yes you can swap them easily to earlier cars. In fact I bought a set the other day to retro fit.
 
Random question...is there a quick way to go back to auto after using the paddles? For example on a jaguar if you hold down the gear up paddle it goes back to auto.

Currently I just flick the gear lever left n right again
 
Himi said:
Random question...is there a quick way to go back to auto after using the paddles? For example on a jaguar if you hold down the gear up paddle it goes back to auto.

Currently I just flick the gear lever left n right again

Wait about 5-10secs and it goes back into auto errr automatically.
 
cerbera said:
Himi said:
Random question...is there a quick way to go back to auto after using the paddles? For example on a jaguar if you hold down the gear up paddle it goes back to auto.

Currently I just flick the gear lever left n right again

Wait about 5-10secs and it goes back into auto errr automatically.
Not if you have gone into full manual, i.e. moved it into S-mode and used the paddles. In that case you have to move it back out of S/M mode then back in if you want to switch back to S mode.
 
Lazza said:
cerbera said:
Himi said:
Random question...is there a quick way to go back to auto after using the paddles? For example on a jaguar if you hold down the gear up paddle it goes back to auto.

Currently I just flick the gear lever left n right again

Wait about 5-10secs and it goes back into auto errr automatically.
Not if you have gone into full manual, i.e. moved it into S-mode and used the paddles. In that case you have to move it back out of S/M mode then back in if you want to switch back to S mode.

I just keep mine in normal drive (with sport button on obviously) and use the paddles to change gear, the car switches back to full auto after about 10 seconds or so. I find that the S-mode revs too high and doesn't make the most of the torque band so prefer to change myself :)
 
syyzed said:
Lazza said:
cerbera said:
Wait about 5-10secs and it goes back into auto errr automatically.
Not if you have gone into full manual, i.e. moved it into S-mode and used the paddles. In that case you have to move it back out of S/M mode then back in if you want to switch back to S mode.

I just keep mine in normal drive (with sport button on obviously) and use the paddles to change gear, the car switches back to full auto after about 10 seconds or so. I find that the S-mode revs too high and doesn't make the most of the torque band so prefer to change myself :)
Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.
 
Lazza said:
Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.
You must have a different DCT box from mine, then. :)
 
Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.

Mine does exactly this, as Lazza says.
 
Busterboo said:
Lazza said:
Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.
You must have a different DCT box from mine, then. :)
In what way mate? What dies yours do differently?
 
Lazza said:
Busterboo said:
Lazza said:
Put it into S mode then use the paddles and it goes into M (manual) mode and stays there. That’s how I’m driving most of the time now so I can make the most of the torque from my 35i and still drive like a loon when I get the chance. Using Sport at the same time as S mode means the steering stiffens up a bit but as far I can feel, has no other affect.
In 'Sport', does yours default from paddle to 'auto' in about 8 seconds?
In 'Sport S', do your steering, suspension, engine & gearbox responses change?
 
Busterboo said:
In 'Sport', does yours default from paddle to 'auto' in about 8 seconds?
In 'Sport S', do your steering, suspension, engine & gearbox responses change?

In 'Normal' steering is light. When you press the flappy paddle it switches to 'Manual' (M1/M2/M3/etc) for about 8 seconds and then reverts back to 'Drive' (D1/D2/D3/etc).

In 'Sport' steering is heavier, suspension, and gearbox are slightly more responsive. When you press the flappy paddle it switches to 'Manual' (M1/M2/M3/etc) for about 8 seconds and then reverts back to 'Drive' (D1/D2/D3/etc).

When you push the gearstick over to the left it enters 'Sequential' mode (S1/S2/S3/etc). Gearbox is MUCH more responsive and aggressive. If you use the flappy paddles in this mode it will changed from 'Sequential' mode to 'Manual' and stay in that mode until the gearstick is moved back to the normal position.

Hope this clears things up.
 
So I've got a 10-plate 35i which I've owned since 2014 and sounds like it has the 'new' paddles. Does that mean that the paddles were changed at some point in the past? Who knew!
 
djstan said:
So I've got a 10-plate 35i which I've owned since 2014 and sounds like it has the 'new' paddles. Does that mean that the paddles were changed at some point in the past? Who knew!

New paddles have a '+' on the right side and a '-' on the left side of the steering wheel, they should be black with a silver trim and they cannot be pushed.

The old ones are all silver and both sides operate as push = down and pull = up.
 
Beeacon said:
New paddles have a '+' on the right side and a '-' on the left side of the steering wheel, they should be black with a silver trim and they cannot be pushed.

The old ones are all silver and both sides operate as push = down and pull = up.

Yep, so I've defo got the new paddles. How intriguing! I had no idea that the car's previous owner(s) was/were enthusiasts!
 
Beeacon said:
In 'Normal' steering is light. When you press the flappy paddle it switches to 'Manual' (M1/M2/M3/etc) for about 8 seconds and then reverts back to 'Drive' (D1/D2/D3/etc).

In 'Sport' steering is heavier, suspension, and gearbox are slightly more responsive. When you press the flappy paddle it switches to 'Manual' (M1/M2/M3/etc) for about 8 seconds and then reverts back to 'Drive' (D1/D2/D3/etc).

When you push the gearstick over to the left it enters 'Sequential' mode (S1/S2/S3/etc). Gearbox is MUCH more responsive and aggressive. If you use the flappy paddles in this mode it will changed from 'Sequential' mode to 'Manual' and stay in that mode until the gearstick is moved back to the normal position.

Hope this clears things up.
Well, Lazza, does it? :)
 
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