Fitting 2006 m-sport seats to 2003 Z4, potential issues?

Thanks! Managed to get the foam away from the frame now - and the thigh extension frame., which I presume bolts onto the electric seat base?

How does the electric controls detach from the seat base to remove the plastic side piece on that base?
 
To move the thigh support over to the electric seat base remove this spring where the arrow points:

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Then push the thigh support all the way in and then remove the 4 bolts in the centre and the 2 black bolts either end:

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PhilMGCollins said:
How does the electric controls detach from the seat base to remove the plastic side piece on that base?

The electric controls come off with side plastic but only moves so far because of the attached cables.

These 2 clips hold the controls to the side plastics at the bottom. The top is held in with 2 notches which you don't do anything with. Angle the bottom out when removing and it frees itself from the notches.

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Cheers, got that bit now and backrest removed, as well as the rear of the seat cushion. So I'm now on the front section of the leather, but it looks to be stapled to the frame? (Not sure how to attach a photo).
 
Oh yeah.. haha. So yeah, it's all this surrounding leather that's been stapled to the frame I believe - did you have to remove all this to free the cushion?
 

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It will just pull down. It's really tight.

The leather is stapled to plastic strip clips like your m-sports seats were on the sides.

On the outside of the leather at the front, not the stapled side, feel it. You can feel where the plastic strip starts. Try pushing down on there.

If you want more help I'll be home at 6.30 ish :thumbsup:
 
If you put your thumb here pushing down

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And your other hand at the same time like this pulling down on the inside you should be able to release it

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Ahhhh gotcha - got that all off now!

So both the electric and manual bases are almost there, only the wiring to the seat cushion in each base is keeping them from fully coming off.

Having had a look at both harnesses, they're obviously different - given one has electric motors to power, where the other doesn't - so is it a case of transplanting each harness onto the other base? It doesn't look like the actual plug of the electric base would fit the plug in the car which had the manual seats and vice versa.

(Sorry for all the Qs! Appreciate the help, its getting there slow and steady!)
 
Snip off a cable tie roughly where the blue arrow points, where the red arrow points there is clip you lift up and there is one the other side and then slide the black top case off

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Should end up like this

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Then all the plugs can be pulled out easily.
 
Perfect, thanks! I've managed to get the rest sorted.

The spring layer and associated bracket from the electric base had to be moved onto the manual base, as it interfered with the M sport seat base - which comes with the isofix points and bracket as one piece.
And the brackets for this seemed to be marginally narrower at the bolt holes than the counterpart seat base, so a little drilling was required to get them to fit. I don't expect I'll be carrying any baby passengers about though, so no worries there haha.

Built back up the new M sport electric seat and was easy enough! So onto the driver's one...

Thanks for the help - absolute legend! :D
 
Usel said:
Glad you managed to get it done :thumbsup:

Drivers seat should a breeze now :D

Yep! They're all in and working beautifully! The driving experience actually feels so much better, now that I'm not being thrown about in the seat through corners haha

Thanks again!
 
Hi all. Bit of a thread revival but I am doing something very similar at the moment. Putting facelift MSport seats into a pre facelift car. The electric base swap is in progress and that is going fine - thanks to all the threads on here. But I’m stuck on this occupancy sensor thing. Knowing that the two are not compatible or interchangeable, I removed the occupancy sensor mat from the pre facelift se seat with a view to fitting it in to the facelift MSport seat. That way, I thought the car would see it as a pre-facelift seat and not throw up an error. But it is a different size and shape to the msport occupancy mat. I can squeeze it in but I’m not convinced it’ll work properly or fit properly. What have people done about this? Is there such a thing as a pre-facelift MSport seat/occupancy sensor? I’m wondering if I should just fit the bypass thingy and be done with it, but then I wonder if that will trigger the seatbelt warning for a passenger that isn’t there…?

Any advice from those who e got around this problem would be most welcomed!
 
Another option is to code out the seat occupancy sensors (using BMW's 'NCS' software, usually), so that you need neither mat, not bypass.

I can't remember the setting name offhand, it 'NCS Dummy' knows about it.

I assume in this case, the airbag fires regardless
 
2-Pugs said:
Hi all. Bit of a thread revival but I am doing something very similar at the moment. Putting facelift MSport seats into a pre facelift car. The electric base swap is in progress and that is going fine - thanks to all the threads on here. But I’m stuck on this occupancy sensor thing. Knowing that the two are not compatible or interchangeable, I removed the occupancy sensor mat from the pre facelift se seat with a view to fitting it in to the facelift MSport seat. That way, I thought the car would see it as a pre-facelift seat and not throw up an error. But it is a different size and shape to the msport occupancy mat. I can squeeze it in but I’m not convinced it’ll work properly or fit properly. What have people done about this? Is there such a thing as a pre-facelift MSport seat/occupancy sensor? I’m wondering if I should just fit the bypass thingy and be done with it, but then I wonder if that will trigger the seatbelt warning for a passenger that isn’t there…?

Any advice from those who e got around this problem would be most welcomed!

When I swapped my pre-facelift sport seats to facelift M-sport seats, I bought and installed a new pre-facelift M-sport seat sensor mat and recycled the control electronics module from my pre-facelift seats. There seems to be two versions on the mat (pre-facelift, M) on realoem, i.e. 72107919202 and 65776927892, for different leather versions. Don’t know how they differ.
 
2-Pugs said:
Hi all. Bit of a thread revival but I am doing something very similar at the moment. Putting facelift MSport seats into a pre facelift car. The electric base swap is in progress and that is going fine - thanks to all the threads on here. But I’m stuck on this occupancy sensor thing. Knowing that the two are not compatible or interchangeable, I removed the occupancy sensor mat from the pre facelift se seat with a view to fitting it in to the facelift MSport seat. That way, I thought the car would see it as a pre-facelift seat and not throw up an error. But it is a different size and shape to the msport occupancy mat. I can squeeze it in but I’m not convinced it’ll work properly or fit properly. What have people done about this? Is there such a thing as a pre-facelift MSport seat/occupancy sensor? I’m wondering if I should just fit the bypass thingy and be done with it, but then I wonder if that will trigger the seatbelt warning for a passenger that isn’t there…?

Any advice from those who e got around this problem would be most welcomed!

I sorted this with what you've said, put the pre-facelift occupancy sensor mat into the facelift M-sport seat foam, but as you say they're a different fit. Didn't want to deal with bypass sensors and the potential for unncessary airbag fiting - and I didn't have the patience to go down the coding route, so in my mind this was the best option to do it once and do it right (as far as using all the original wiring and hardware etc).

I ended up hacking a little bit on this and just cut out space in the seat foam for the pre-facelift sensor mat using a retractable blade. Like you I thought even with this cut out to accommodate the mat, that it would set off the occupancy sensor as a false positive when nothing/nobody was in the seat. And for the first week or so it did register a load on the seat when nobody was sat in it, but I think over time it has worn in nicely and no longer gives false positives and about a year later it has been solid - always registers correctly when someone is in the seat without their seatbelt on, and never triggers when the seat is empty.

It's a bit of a hack like I say, but for the easiest/cheapest option, at least the leather covers over the mess. Just make sure if you do go down this route not to cut out too much foam. As ultimately someone will be sitting on it and the foam is the direct support for them, so too much of a gap might feel uncomfortable as they're falling into the gap. I don't have photos anymore unfortunately but just take out only as much as the sensor needs - if I recall it's where the sensor mat dips down that is the problem, so just get that bit into the channel with a bit of foam removed and adjust the position to fit best.

But yeah, it can be done and works well when the time is taken. As above though, it's nice to know there are other options available should you want. The work to get these seats on an SE is well worth it, easily my favourite change to the Z so far... maybe once the hydraulic steering rack gets fitted it might take that mantle though
 
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