First Service E89 2.0 2016

I think they charge labour in units, if I remember correctly, each unit is 5 minutes, so the first one is 10 minutes for the standard scope (is that where they plug it into the computer to check for error codes etc?).

So the second £21.67 is 10 minutes to change the microfilter, and £37.26 for the actual filter.

At that rate, it equals £130 an hour labour.

However, the oil filter service bit doesn't add up. It looks like they've charged 15 minutes labour, but is that feasible? Then they've charged 5 units for oil....but the 12.5 for waste disposal is actually £12.50.

Add it up according to the breakdown on the left shows parts cost £50.81....which suggests oil .....

oh fcuk it, I'm lost :dizzy:
 
ihadablackdog said:
I think they charge labour in units, if I remember correctly, each unit is 5 minutes, so the first one is 10 minutes for the standard scope (is that where they plug it into the computer to check for error codes etc?).

So the second £21.67 is 10 minutes to change the microfilter, and £37.26 for the actual filter.

At that rate, it equals £130 an hour labour.

However, the oil filter service bit doesn't add up. It looks like they've charged 15 minutes labour, but is that feasible? Then they've charged 5 units for oil....but the 12.5 for waste disposal is actually £12.50.

Add it up according to the breakdown on the left shows parts cost £50.81....which suggests oil .....

oh fcuk it, I'm lost :dizzy:

Yep, not easy to decipher is it. Doesn't make much sense.
 
warmasice said:
ihadablackdog said:
I think they charge labour in units, if I remember correctly, each unit is 5 minutes, so the first one is 10 minutes for the standard scope (is that where they plug it into the computer to check for error codes etc?).

So the second £21.67 is 10 minutes to change the microfilter, and £37.26 for the actual filter.

At that rate, it equals £130 an hour labour.

However, the oil filter service bit doesn't add up. It looks like they've charged 15 minutes labour, but is that feasible? Then they've charged 5 units for oil....but the 12.5 for waste disposal is actually £12.50.

Add it up according to the breakdown on the left shows parts cost £50.81....which suggests oil .....

oh fcuk it, I'm lost :dizzy:

Yep, not easy to decipher is it. Doesn't make much sense.

Doesn’t need deciphering, it’s a big fat stinking rip off and that’s that.... :x
 
john-e89 said:
warmasice said:
ihadablackdog said:
I think they charge labour in units, if I remember correctly, each unit is 5 minutes, so the first one is 10 minutes for the standard scope (is that where they plug it into the computer to check for error codes etc?).

So the second £21.67 is 10 minutes to change the microfilter, and £37.26 for the actual filter.

At that rate, it equals £130 an hour labour.

However, the oil filter service bit doesn't add up. It looks like they've charged 15 minutes labour, but is that feasible? Then they've charged 5 units for oil....but the 12.5 for waste disposal is actually £12.50.

Add it up according to the breakdown on the left shows parts cost £50.81....which suggests oil .....

oh fcuk it, I'm lost :dizzy:

Yep, not easy to decipher is it. Doesn't make much sense.

Doesn’t need deciphering, it’s a big fat stinking rip off and that’s that.... :x

That’s what I like about you John, you say it like it is :lol:
Rob
 
john-e89 said:
warmasice said:
ihadablackdog said:
I think they charge labour in units, if I remember correctly, each unit is 5 minutes, so the first one is 10 minutes for the standard scope (is that where they plug it into the computer to check for error codes etc?).

So the second £21.67 is 10 minutes to change the microfilter, and £37.26 for the actual filter.

At that rate, it equals £130 an hour labour.

However, the oil filter service bit doesn't add up. It looks like they've charged 15 minutes labour, but is that feasible? Then they've charged 5 units for oil....but the 12.5 for waste disposal is actually £12.50.

Add it up according to the breakdown on the left shows parts cost £50.81....which suggests oil .....

oh fcuk it, I'm lost :dizzy:

Yep, not easy to decipher is it. Doesn't make much sense.

Doesn’t need deciphering, it’s a big fat stinking rip off and that’s that.... :x


That being said, whats the point of an itemised bill if you still can't see where the money's gone.

....I guess its in their interest to make it this confusing, to hide where the money is going.

Take it back and ask for an explanation in english!
 
Araf said:
I purchased the 5 year or 50,000 mile service pack for £525 when I bought my E89 2.0 in Jan 16 so that seems a potential bargain in comparison.
mine has come with that till 2021 or 50,000 miles - does it include parts and labour does it include MOT's too ?
 
jasonofbillinge said:
Araf said:
I purchased the 5 year or 50,000 mile service pack for £525 when I bought my E89 2.0 in Jan 16 so that seems a potential bargain in comparison.
mine has come with that till 2021 or 50,000 miles - does it include parts and labour does it include MOT's too ?

The service pack on my car covered part & labour, it also had an add on called mot protect (or similar) which didn’t cover the cost of the test itself but covered against major components being faulty, it excludes normal wear & tear items like brakes and tyres :thumbsup:
Rob
 
I think (not) thats an absolute bargain, I particularly like the Environmental disposal charge given they probably sell the used oil onto the local Kebab shop.
 
Retired now but been an engineer all my working life and obviously still am. I really do wonder about the servicing thinking on modern cars. I go a long way back to the days of either minor or major service on a 12 month alternating cycle - more or less. I’ve recently bought a 14 plate 2.0i with 14k miles and FSH on a 5 year Service Plan - everything having been done as it should. That said - the work so far amounts to an oil and filter change (next one due 6/18) and a Brake Fluid Change - and little else. In spite of it having received an “Inspection” to “exacting standards” for “Approved Used” prior to delivery, I am busy working through the car. After a week of cosmetic work I’ve now started on the mechanicals. First job wheels off and brakes apart to clean up and repaint discs and callipers, scale and repaint the odd cable bracket etc. The first wheel took me two hours to remove requiring a good soaking of release oil around the hub and gentle heating with a fan heater in same area. I know alloys frequently seize to the hubs but I don’t believe these wheels have ever been off in four years. My point is - what exactly do you get for £130 an hour these days? It’s a great car - really enjoying it and to be honest my hobby is spending hours in the garage faffing as my wife calls it but I cannot imagine keeping up with Main Dealer SH once the Extended Warranty/Service Plan expires. If anything my car has probably suffered a bit from lack of use by previous owner but I really do think that four years is just too long to not go a bit further than an oil change. I know the maintenance is intended to be variable but at the moment the front brakes have 33k miles left in them and the rear brakes 20k miles according to the Service Indicator but that could be a few more years yet - can’t imagine not taking my brakes apart every couple of years. Apart from the E Brake assembly the brakes aren’t really any different to cars from 30 years ago. Sorry going on a bit here.....
 
You're too far from the standard user profile, Crista - 12-15k miles/year & expected vehicle life of 6-8 years.

Within this profile, your wheel's wouldn't have stuck, because they'd have been off at least every two years for new tyres, of course.

All manufacturers have user & use profiles, the latter for parts and whole vehicles, primarily to minimise manufacturing costs and those associated with essential servicing.

We step outside these profiles at our peril.
 
Busterboo said:
Within this profile, your wheel's wouldn't have stuck, because they'd have been off at least every two years for new tyres, of course.
Its only got 14,000 miles on it though, so it could still be on the original tyres and as Crista says the wheels might never have been off before
 
Yes, but it's a 14 plate and, so, 'outside the profile'. BMW - and most manufacturers - don't plan for eventualities like this.
 
I wonder what user profile plans for this then. I did ask to look underneath the car before I bought it while it was on the ramps but I was told no public allowed in the workshop. I was shocked at how much the rear wishbone arms had corroded and indeed the anti roll bar bush clamps - plus a few other things. Now - since the car has had the requisite inspections this must be considered normal by the Manufacturer - hmm.... I know these parts are consumable but not in four years surely? I have bought a couple of wishbones and will change them in the near future. The user profile for oil change intervals is mileage or calendar based for low users - it would seem logical then that it would be sensible to remove the wheels at least every two years to prevent them seizing to the hubs. I took another wheel off this afternoon two hours of release oil and gentle heating again so that I could get to the wishbone to remove the rust/treat and give it a bit more life......
 

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