Fire Death Parents Charged With Murder

ksher

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I always think the husband is a bastard, and two women are idiots. :thumbsdown:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-18261680
 
Someone said they tried to burn down the house then they could get a bigger one from the council.
 
What is wrong with society? I guess we will find out why, but never understand. What position must you be in to even contemplate such an action.
 
They are scum. He is quoted as "my children are the most important things in my life. . . I would do anything for them". Yet he has had 11 ( or 13 I can't remember) doesn't work and so provides nothing for them and has by his actions and irresponsibility committed them to a childhood of poverty of opportunity that more than likely will result in them remaining in the same culture of social benefits dependency. So how much does he really love his kids if he can't even be responsible enough to get a job and teach them by example

And all this is true before he is accused of this appalling crime, which if true, is sick
 
Some people are of the opinion that society has a duty to support them them their entire life. They even refer to the benefit money they get as getting "paid". I thought getting paid was actually a payment for some goods or service you have performed. Parasites.
Of course not everyone on benefits is like this but we do have way too many life long work dodgers.
Ok, rant over.
 
wantanM said:
They are scum. He is quoted as "my children are the most important things in my life. . . I would do anything for them". Yet he has had 11 ( or 13 I can't remember) doesn't work and so provides nothing for them and has by his actions and irresponsibility committed them to a childhood of poverty of opportunity that more than likely will result in them remaining in the same culture of social benefits dependency. So how much does he really love his kids if he can't even be responsible enough to get a job and teach them by example

And all this is true before he is accused of this appalling crime, which if true, is sick
6 down, 11 to go... :thumbsdown:
 
What on gods earth happened to innocent until proven guilty, the site has a big trend one guy making an opinion then the other keyboard cretins jumping on the band wagon......

It's really sad IMO... None of us know what happened so maybe we should hold fire until the facts are collated.
 
We are not talking about them killing their children accidentially. It is about these irresponsible parents and burden to our society.
 
That's very well said, although I can appreciate this story pulling at the heart strings of the vast majority & so it's very easy to let emotions sway judgement.

Clearly (as is the norm these days) the media don't help the situation. It is an dreadful situation & guilty or not something these folks will have to live with for a very long time.
 
If he's not guilty of murder, he's certainly guilty if bring completely irresponsible by having 17 kids he can't afford in the first place - that's disgraceful!!!

Not wishing to pre-judge the outcome of a court case...... But I don't think they'd have got to the point of arrest on a whim as this would cause outrage from the general public....
 
uuf361 said:
If he's not guilty of murder, he's certainly guilty if bring completely irresponsible by having 17 kids he can't afford in the first place - that's disgraceful!!!

Not wishing to pre-judge the outcome of a court case...... But I don't think they'd have got to the point of arrest on a whim as this would cause outrage from the general public....

:thumbsup:
 
uuf361 said:
If he's not guilty of murder, he's certainly guilty if bring completely irresponsible by having 17 kids he can't afford in the first place - that's disgraceful!!!

Not wishing to pre-judge the outcome of a court case...... But I don't think they'd have got to the point of arrest on a whim as this would cause outrage from the general public....

Now that I can agree with!!!
 
I'm sure there will be the usual tree-hugging do-gooders keen to explain how actually this is society's guilt not the individuals' (and I refer more to the circumstances leading to a man having 17 children by numerous mothers 6 of whom end up very sadly killed, by whatever hand, motive or means (let the court decide that) and being able to do so without adding one penny of value to 'GBPLC' - in fact quite the opposite).

However, what grates me is that many of the do-gooders and beneficiaries of benefits are very quick to lay claim to their 'rights' but somewhat more reticent in accepting the 'responsibilities' that generate those rights in the first place.

I, for one, am proud to live in a country that has a safety net. If, for whatever reason that is no fault of your own, you fall frm whatever pedestal you choose to sit upon, we will look after you, we will help you, feed you and clothe you and put you back on your feet and helpyou head in the correct direction. At least I assume that is what the 'social' is for - somehow, however, it seems to have become more of a "sponger's charter" (think I may have glanced at a copy of my parents' Daily Mail last time they stayed!).

Many folk in this country claim there is no work, they can't make money and they are owed a living. Some do get off their ar$e$ and do something about it, maybe even at the extreme they move abroad and start all over again; not so as easy now that Australia (for example) has what appears to be an intelligent and selective skills-based approach to immigration. However, the other day I was trying to get a half decent painter to do some work (painting, unsurprisingly). The first 2 I called said "I've got enough work on thanks, not really looking for any more" - fair enough (but why not consider taking on a junior???). The next said "I'm not doing any more this year, I'm off on holiday for 6 months" (ok, maybe I'm in the wrong line of work). 2 others offered to quote - only one of them turned up and even now 3 weeks later has not sent me a quote. I then got given the number of an Aussie chap who had found his way to this country, set up as a decorator and came round within 24 hours of me calling him. He was polite, professional and gave me a fixed (and extremely competitive) price there and then. He emphasized that he put all his work through the books as he felt it was important to be a fully paid up member of the society in which he has chosen to live. The only downside was that he couldn't start for 6 weeks - I said that was a shame as I'm putting it no the market asap. He then immediately offered to work 6pm to 10pm every night next week to help me out.

Meanwhile others sit back and say they can't/won't/shouldn't work and carry on breeding...

Reflective rant over.
 
Taz x said:
you have assumed they are guilty?

Beedub said:
What on gods earth happened to innocent until proven guilty, the site has a big trend one guy making an opinion then the other keyboard cretins jumping on the band wagon......

It's really sad IMO... None of us know what happened so maybe we should hold fire until the facts are collated.

Look who's talking... :poke:
 
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