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Had this on an Email. Might make sense, have a read:

"Tips on Filling your Vehicles...

This is a Message received from a friend:

I don't know what you guys are paying for petrol... but here in Durban, we are also paying higher, up to 47.35 per litre. My line of work has been in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every litre.

Here at the Marian Hill Pipeline, where I work in Durban, we deliver about 4 million litres in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.

One day is diesel; the next day is jet fuel, and petrol, LRP and Unleaded. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 litres.

ONLY BUY OR FILL UP YOUR CAR OR BIKE IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN THE GROUND TEMPERATURE IS STILL COLD. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground, the denser the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.... your litre is not exactly a litre.

In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products play an important role. A 1degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

WHEN YOU'RE FILLING UP, DO NOT SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER OF THE NOZZLE TO A FAST MODE. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created, while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TIPS IS TO FILL UP WHEN YOUR TANK IS HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank, the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.

Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated, so that every litre is actually the exact amount.

ANOTHER REMINDER, IF THERE IS A FUEL TRUCK PUMPING INTO THE STORAGE TANKS, WHEN YOU STOP TO BUY, DO NOT FILL UP - most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

Hope, this will help you get the maximum value for your money.

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS! LET’S SHARE INFORMATION AND BENEFIT ALL "
 
PhilDZ4 said:
Didn't someone post an article de-bunking most of the above? If not, I read it in the paper.... I don't think most of the tips above make any difference. :|
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Same here. I think it was on the BBC's site.
 
Nah, use the illegal aliens (see Mexico) that we capture/arrest that will be required to serve in the military (see conscripts) and send them to the oil producing nations. For practice and logistically easier, send them to Venezuela first.
 
Or in the west of Northern Ireland where its £1.18 for the cheapest stuff :o

My uncle used to manage a few petrol sites for Mobil/BP and he always told me to only squeeze the lever half way at the most to minimise vapour (and particularly foaming if your filling with diesel), so you get a more complete fill.

Never use a pump that has 2 hoses leading to the nozzle as these are the superquick pumps which mean you actually get even less!

I often fill 20 litre plastic jerry cans with diesel for work. If you fill at full speed and put 20 litres in, to the 20 litre marking on the jerry can, there will be about 1-1.5" of foam at the top and you will pay for thew whole 20 litres. By the time you get back from paying for the fuel, the foam will have settled and the level is below 20 litres, so you do indeed get less. Its no joke.

My uncle also used to tell me about the compensation setting on the pumps, which are kinda like the little wheel that you get on bathroom scales that zero's the guage. As pumps get older they have to be adjusted so you get the same amount it says you're getting. There is something like a -5 to +5 setting. Weights and measures set them and then seal them. He knew of garages that used to then break this seal and retard the pump so you would then get less. Most branded garages (BP, Tesco, Shell etc) leave them alone but I still hear of this practive going on at independant garages over here.


I have no idea how much effect the ground temperature has on fuel density.
 
20ducks said:
Nah, use the illegal aliens (see Mexico) that we capture/arrest that will be required to serve in the military (see conscripts) and send them to the oil producing nations. For practice and logistically easier, send them to Venezuela first.
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Ducks for president...and prime minister... :guns:
 
Wondermike said:
20ducks said:
Nah, use the illegal aliens (see Mexico) that we capture/arrest that will be required to serve in the military (see conscripts) and send them to the oil producing nations. For practice and logistically easier, send them to Venezuela first.
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Ducks for president...and prime minister... :guns:
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“THE KING IS DEAD” LONG LIVE THE DUCK :thumbsup:
 
There were 2 great politicians in the 20th Century: one was Ronald Reagan, the other Sir Winston Churchill.

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.
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Sir Winston Churchill
 
I received the same article through e-mail from various sources and I read articles debunking all of this.
 
20ducks said:
There were 2 great politicians in the 20th Century: one was Ronald Reagan, the other Sir Winston Churchill.

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.
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Sir Winston Churchill
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I am not sure about Ronald Reagan but I would concur with Winston Churchill. I still like best his response to a female MP who complained in parliament that he was drunk and that she
would put poison in his coffee :cry: if she were married to him. His reply: "Madam, if I was your husband I would drink that coffee." :? :lol: :rofl:
 
pmeloche said:
20ducks said:
There were 2 great politicians in the 20th Century: one was Ronald Reagan, the other Sir Winston Churchill.

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.
Click to expand...
Sir Winston Churchill
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I am not sure about Ronald Reagan but I would concur with Winston Churchill. I still like best his response to a female MP who complained in parliament that he was drunk and that she
would put poison in his coffee :cry: if she were married to him. His reply: "Madam, if I was your husband I would drink that coffee." :? :lol: :rofl:
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When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan :thumbsup:
 
I think too fuel density might depend on altitude or type of gas.
You could always debunk these yourself by grabbing a 2 gallon gas can and filling it up at various variables.

Either way I thought this was a repost... :P
 
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