F1 ruined and a spoiler alert 🔔

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john-e89

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Anyone watch quali this morning…?

Verstappen out with car issues
Russell 0.7 ahead of his team mate
Norris 6th with car issues

On the face of it that’s nothing hugely surprising first race of a new season, but it’s the way these results have occurred isn’t it. Watching the battery gauge on the steering wheel clearly shows what a load of utter crap these cars are now, the battery, 50% of the cars power, empties so quickly that unless the driver watches it very closely and drives to the battery gauge it’s game over.

So this year the championship will be down to which team and driver can keep enough charge in the battery round a lap instead of who is driving flat out, it’s ridiculous, imo.

I love this sport but have never been so disappointed with it. ☹️
 
I'll watch it if i'm about. Has a similar level of interest as Doc Martin for me these days. It's not racing.(n)
 
F1 is total net zero woke nonsense. Teams and press even told to be positive when discussing it. Load of rubbish at least Verstappen was first to say the car is crap to drive. Whilst surprise surprise Hamilton was saying it's good,blah blah blah. Rubbish.
 
I don't get the hate to be honest! It sill is cars going round in circle, excepted on an onboard you don't even know it is slowing down at the end of a straight... Best team+driver is at the front. Excepted Mercedes being far ahead, the rest of the pack is actually quite close and teams are mixed up as the cars do indeed seem to be a bit looser and harder to drive. I am expecting some more peloton racing thanks to energy management too so I am waiting till we have a first race to start judging. The most surprising bit to me is how "unprepared" the teams seem to be about energy deployment despite being something OEMs have done for a few years now!
 
Not sure if this relates to F1 in any way as I am (or was) a MotoGP fan.
The bikes these days have some much aero kit on them that they cannot get too close to the bike in front as they loose all their downforce in the turbulent air off the front bike so there is no overtaking any more. It’s been ruined.
 
I haven't watched it for ages, so what is the battery for or are we talking about the electric F1? Are they hybrids now?
 
MikeyH said:
I haven't watched it for ages, so what is the battery for or are we talking about the electric F1? Are they hybrids now?
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Cars power is a 50/50 split of internal combustion engine and battery power Mikey. To even launch off the line the cars have to rev for 10 seconds standing still to charge the battery, then it is depleted and recharged as it moves round the track from harvesting braking and engine revs, so the drivers have to brake much earlier than normal, use clipping of the gears to generate lekky, downshift earlier, have to monitor how much battery they use in certain places as to not run out of lekky, so eg, the hangar straight at Silverstone they wont be able use full throttle until probably well past half way down the straight etc, etc.
 
Without being too stereotypical or controversial:

The sport has the biggest growth from a middle of the road demographic- F 30-49

That’s why the smart advertising money is all on F1 over others

Look at nestle sponsoring F1 for the next 3 years. Will sell more kitkats

I watched the most recent drive to survive it was the racing equivalent of TOWIE- pretty boring. But the missus loved it.

I still watch F1 but if I want to watch racing that’s more engaging I go to BTCC
 
I’ve not watched broadcast TV since I came back from Afghan in 2009. I watch YouTube and films off my hard drive but that’s all.
 
I'll still watch it all the time there is an engine in them, even if it is a bit fake with the hybrid nonsense becoming more critical.

Especially enjoyed Max's first fast lap. :D

But it's all getting a bit fake with the Aero in MotoGP and the front tyre pressure issues. BTCC is no better with winners getting fewer laps of hybrid boost. :(
 
F1 exploded in growth in the States, but the TV rights changed so it's now on Apple TV instead of cable via ESPN for the next 5 years. So now you need an additional subscription to watch F1 (and Apple TV lacks a lot of other content, people find the service to be too expensive for what it is). The lack of platform access has already tanked viewship for MLS. Some diehards may get a subscription but I reckon US viewship is going to drop due to accessibility. I myself am content with just watching YouTube highlights.

As for the cars, I think it forces drivers and teams to be more tactical. Its less traditional and I prefer lack of battery, but I'm interested to see how strategies change
 
It's the first race of the first season after some very big changes reflecting what is happening in the automotive world and the the cars are actually quite exciting (the random lock-ups during braked charging aside). Let's see what it's like after six races and they have a better idea about the set up. What is clear is that the new aero is helping the cars get closer, the 10 second wait to charge is really pants though.
 
sars said:
It's the first race of the first season after some very big changes reflecting what is happening in the automotive world and the the cars are actually quite exciting (the random lock-ups during braked charging aside). Let's see what it's like after six races and they have a better idea about the set up. What is clear is that the new aero is helping the cars get closer, the 10 second wait to charge is really pants though.
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The 10 sec charge will only be for the start, and the cars are sitting there doing nothing anyway, so it won’t affect the start at all.

There’ll just be more strategy about where to deploy the boost & overtake energy…as if you use it to defend then you might not have as much left as the guy behind to kick you out of a corner.

But they do sound awful when the ‘clipping’ comes into force on long straights and slows them down well before the corner.
 
Rsipad said:
F1 exploded in growth in the States, but the TV rights changed so it's now on Apple TV instead of cable via ESPN for the next 5 years. So now you need an additional subscription to watch F1 (and Apple TV lacks a lot of other content, people find the service to be too expensive for what it is). The lack of platform access has already tanked viewship for MLS. Some diehards may get a subscription but I reckon US viewship is going to drop due to accessibility. I myself am content with just watching YouTube highlights.
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We used to have free to air live F1 in the UK for decades.
Then Sky TV bought the live rights and charge a fortune to be able to watch it (they have a dedicated F1 channel but you have to subscribe to other crap aswell).
I have watched F1 for over 40 years but now only watch highlights on one of our free to air terrestrial channels as I won't pay the extortionate subscriptions for mainly hours of endless drivel.
 
Rsipad said:
As for the cars, I think it forces drivers and teams to be more tactical. Its less traditional and I prefer lack of battery, but I'm interested to see how strategies change
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I agree. I am looking forward to see who can 'manage' the cars best, especially in the first few races until everyone gets the hang of them.
I would love Lewis to be up there. I would be happy if anyone is up there, as long as it's not Verstappen! :D
 
Stopped watching years ago, I just download it from none-sky broadcast as Croft is annoying AF! Even Pistonheads has a massive thread on his crap commentary.
 
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