Thanks Maniac, I haven't been on the forum for a while but just saw this thread by chance. Had a check and one of my seals is a bit flimsy. I'm taking the Zed in to the service shop for a leather repair, which I will make another thread about but I'll also get them to check this and see if they will sort it out under warranty. Will feed back later.
Every e89 owner needs to read this... Boot/water ingress...
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Maniac said:
Ok so here's the 'gap'... it's where the tail light ends, and the rain channel begins... If you were looking down at the tail light, this is the closes point to the front of the car...
Here's the watery towels...
and here's the plate (and bumpstop) in question that i can't remove... (ignore the drops on it, it's raining here again).
Yeah I removed that to clean it up. I put it back after I took the picture. That tissue was in all night and was dry when I loaded the boot this morning. It's soaked after today and driving home from work.
Could water get in to the boot whilst the car is moving?
...I'm wondering if these bumper vent seals have actually been replaced, you know?
Could water get in to the boot whilst the car is moving?
...I'm wondering if these bumper vent seals have actually been replaced, you know?
My car has that gap. It looks part of the design to allow water from the channel to drain away. It has nowhere else to go.
It drains over the rear inside of the tail lamps. If their rubbers are not seated correctly, you will get water in the boot.
Worse still the right hand side has loads of electrics waiting to be drowned.
Have a look at this video I made,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHJa6z6e-a0&feature=youtu.be
you will see the rubber seals.
If you look at the last few seconds of video you can see the dirt from drained water over one of the oval openings.
And there was lots of crud over the back of the lamp.
It drains over the rear inside of the tail lamps. If their rubbers are not seated correctly, you will get water in the boot.
Worse still the right hand side has loads of electrics waiting to be drowned.
Have a look at this video I made,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHJa6z6e-a0&feature=youtu.be
you will see the rubber seals.
If you look at the last few seconds of video you can see the dirt from drained water over one of the oval openings.
And there was lots of crud over the back of the lamp.
That's a great video - I'm amazed how quickly those lights can come out!
So, my theory about water ingress whilst moving has been proven correct - rememmber the towels from yesterday? So, i replaced them last night and checked them again this morning. The rain at one point last night was torrental... checked them this morning and they were dry.
Driven to work today, down the M6. Raining somewhat too. After 13miles, they're soaking wet again. I've replaced them at the car park this morning, and will see what they end up like when they've been sat stationary today.
So, my theory about water ingress whilst moving has been proven correct - rememmber the towels from yesterday? So, i replaced them last night and checked them again this morning. The rain at one point last night was torrental... checked them this morning and they were dry.
Driven to work today, down the M6. Raining somewhat too. After 13miles, they're soaking wet again. I've replaced them at the car park this morning, and will see what they end up like when they've been sat stationary today.
I'm not sure its the moving part, though I'll check on mine too to work it all out. I think its when you open the boot lid, rain runs off it and long these channels. There's a sort of double seal approach, an inner seal set for the boot and an outer seal set when the boot is closed.
Yes water is working its way in to the sump.
As for where it's coming from, I have no clue - all I'm trying to do with the tissue, is identify where is getting wet.
As for where the tissue is, I'm putting it under the the black backing plate in the boot, but away from the sponge that the pump lives in.
Water doesn't rise, so it must be coming in from above the line of the tissue.
This weekend's job: all trim out and pour water down the channels to see where it's getting in. Now I just need to figure how to get that back plate off....
As for where it's coming from, I have no clue - all I'm trying to do with the tissue, is identify where is getting wet.
As for where the tissue is, I'm putting it under the the black backing plate in the boot, but away from the sponge that the pump lives in.
Water doesn't rise, so it must be coming in from above the line of the tissue.
This weekend's job: all trim out and pour water down the channels to see where it's getting in. Now I just need to figure how to get that back plate off....
Two things, I assume you have the Green button like fixing on the offside of the boot which indicates the recall was done to stop water ingress into the boot.
The other things, the picture where you show the water is against the 'bump stop' was this picture after the car had been sat and not driven or was this after being driven in the rain? The only reason I ask is I noticed a bit of water like that after I drove up north in a down pour that never stopped. Lot of water on the roads and I assumed it was water which had been thrown up from the road whilst at speed. Never noticed it since.
Checking the boot this morning after the wind and rain over night and no issues here. Checked again after I got home and there has been some rain, still nothing.
The other things, the picture where you show the water is against the 'bump stop' was this picture after the car had been sat and not driven or was this after being driven in the rain? The only reason I ask is I noticed a bit of water like that after I drove up north in a down pour that never stopped. Lot of water on the roads and I assumed it was water which had been thrown up from the road whilst at speed. Never noticed it since.
Checking the boot this morning after the wind and rain over night and no issues here. Checked again after I got home and there has been some rain, still nothing.
I'm not sure where this green rivet is... The only green thing I have is the emergency fuel pull.
However...
I decided to have a go at it (just put it all back together now). Took all of the trim and floor out and it looks like water is coming from the vents which sit at right angles to the battery. (Pic below)
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I assume these vents are the ones that should have been altered??
However...
I decided to have a go at it (just put it all back together now). Took all of the trim and floor out and it looks like water is coming from the vents which sit at right angles to the battery. (Pic below)
[/URL]I assume these vents are the ones that should have been altered??
See your last picture on the 2nd page, you've got black plastic fixings holding on the boot trim. The one on the offside (drivers side) that you'll have removed should be green if it's been recalled. If it's black it's not been and that may be your issue.
Actually it will be the clip you've removed to get the above picture. You'd know if you removed a black and a green one.
Actually it will be the clip you've removed to get the above picture. You'd know if you removed a black and a green one.
So this rivet that people think is a sign of the recall is actually the emergency fuel pull?
The car does have a BMW insured warranty yep - it's going I on Monday for them to take a look, and to fix it's dead headlight. The car is now at 59,956, so no more running until Monday, to keep it below 60,000!!!
The car does have a BMW insured warranty yep - it's going I on Monday for them to take a look, and to fix it's dead headlight. The car is now at 59,956, so no more running until Monday, to keep it below 60,000!!!
