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EPS light on. Power steering working. No fault codes.

elfer

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SE UK
This one's got me baffled. The car is new to me. Bought without an MOT so I brought it home on a transporter. EPS light wasn't on when I bought it, nor when I loaded and unloaded it from the trailer. Following day, the EPS light comes on.

There are no fault codes (except for the Rain Light Sensor in the RLS and a the front axle load sensor for the xenons in the ALZ). I have no other warning lights and the power steering functions normally, at least as far as I can tell moving it around on the drive.

One thing that occurs to me is, after I got it home, I spent half a day thoroughly checking it over, including washing all the (hopefully) old oil off the bottom of the block to see if it returns. I disconnected the battery whilst doing that, lest water short circuited anything, and let the car dry before reconnecting. I think it was the next start up that the EPS light came on. That may or may not be related, but I'm keeping it in mind.

I'm also keeping in mind that, when I viewed it, there were a dozen random fault codes, including three for the EPS. I knew though that he'd let the battery go flat through leaving it standing and that very low voltages cause spurious errors, so I deleted them all when I picked it up to see what came back. Stupidly I didn't take a screenshot because I thought i could go back in ISTA to see what they were, should I need to, but I can't see that session. I do think one of the three might have been the steering angle sensor. The EPS light wasn't lit though.

I've fully charged the new battery as a starting point. Still only the RLS and ALZ codes.

I went into INPA to look at the analogue status for the steering angle sensor and saw this, with the steering straight ahead:

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And turning the wheel caused the measured angle to jump all over the place. OK, I thought, my steering angle sensor is faulty. Went back inside to search the forums and found @bigwinn's thread on how to reinitialise using the "developer only" option in INPA. So went back out to try that first.

Went to the the same screen. Only this time, before I'd done anything, it was showing normally

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And turning the wheel lock to lock had the measured angle moving in response as you'd expect.

But the light was still lit.

I did still reinitialise it, just in case, but nothing changed.

So it seems nothing's wrong but the light won't go away.

Maybe I just need to drive it but I can't drive it without an MOT except to get the MOT or to a garage, and it won't pass an MOT with the light on. And I don't really want to pay a garage to tell me they can't find anything wrong with it and/or I should pay them to replace everything and maybe it'll go away.

Any ideas? Every old thread I'm finding on the EPS light has ABS and DSC (I think) warning lights on as well, and/or non-functioning power steering.
 
enuff_zed said:
Just checking. Are there no faults? Or can your code reader not actually see the EPS ecu?

Correct. No EPS faults and both INPA and ISTA can communicate with the the EPS.
 
TIMMOS29 said:
Wild guess but have you cycled the steering full lock full lock?

Yes, a few times now.

Now you mention it, maybe it was doing that which made the measured angle start working properly all by itself between screenshot 1 and screenshot 2.

Light didn't go out though
 
Maybe I do just need to drive it. Like it needs to do a few miles to be convinced it's not faulty.
 
Still not got to the bottom of this. I've read the Sport button is supposed to be disabled when there's an EPS error but my button lights up when pressed (the LED lights orange, is that normal?).

I've tried disabling the EPS light in the KMB module with NCS Expert. Still lit. I also dusted off my old BMW Scanner 1.4 adaptor and saw it was set disabled in that. Still lit.

I called the helpful people at ECUtesting in case they'd heard of an EPS light on with no faults recorded, and with no apparent failure of power steering, and they hadn't.

Short of desoldering the LED so I can pass an MOT I'm stumped!

The only thing I haven't done yet is drive it. Because with no MOT I can't tax it, and without tax the only place I can drive to is a pre-booked MOT test, and it can't pass an MOT with the light on.
 
elfer said:
Still not got to the bottom of this. I've read the Sport button is supposed to be disabled when there's an EPS error but my button lights up when pressed (the LED lights orange, is that normal?).

I've tried disabling the EPS light in the KMB module with NCS Expert. Still lit. I also dusted off my old BMW Scanner 1.4 adaptor and saw it was set disabled in that. Still lit.

I called the helpful people at ECUtesting in case they'd heard of an EPS light on with no faults recorded, and with no apparent failure of power steering, and they hadn't.

Short of desoldering the LED so I can pass an MOT I'm stumped!

The only thing I haven't done yet is drive it. Because with no MOT I can't tax it, and without tax the only place I can drive to is a pre-booked MOT test, and it can't pass an MOT with the light on.
You need to drive it
 
SOLVED!

It was an error entirely of my own making. :facepalm:

This was the clue. The car wasn't lighting the EPS light (Status Error-lamp was off).

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So that implied an error in either the hardware or software of the cluster.

I put a used cluster in as a test, and the light was off. That confirmed it.

I had changed the coding when I got it home to switch from 12 hour clock to 24, but it couldn't be that, surely?

Compared the original trace file to the manipulated one, and remembered I'd also turned the washer bottle warning on. Because I'm an E46 man and E46s have a washer bottle light. I thought some previous owner must have turned it off rather than fix a leak at some point.

Now, as we all know, the E85 has EPS and the E46 doesn't. But the E85 uses E46 modules. So I guess they had to make room for the required EPS light and sacrificed the washer bottle light to do so.

I possibly wouldn't have had a problem, but I've had the bumper off ever since waiting on replacement parts for various little jobs to arrive. I've headlight washers, so that involves draining the tank. So the bottle was telling the cluster it was empty, and the cluster was lighting what it thought was the washer bottle light.

I don't half feel stupid! Amusingly, when I come to put the bumper back on on Saturday and refill the bottle after, the light might have then gone out, and I've had no idea why it had suddenly fixed itself. I wonder if i ever would have made the correlation!
 
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