Engine tune

@Pondy - on this occasion you are wrong. Do not assume things you have not witnessed yourself.
My technical background meant I would not idly sit by and ‘assume’. I was over his shoulder from start to finish.
Saw the original graph, the first one after the map was installed, the interim with the first tweaks, and the final one with all the adjustments in place.
So no more generalisations please based on ‘somebody told me’.
 
Pondy said:
And 'as usual' I was expecting your input! ;)

My 'generalisations' come from speaking in depth (cos I'm nosey) to the people who wrote the maps. If you do some research on Superchips, you will find they were (not anymore cos they sold out) one of the first and a big noise in engine re-mapping going back almost fifty years.

Your 'gospel' is from you being a self-appointed expert on the subject from presumably reading more than knowing. Have you ever thought that maybe your 'tuners', who make a lot of money from you, just may be spinning you a yarn and blowing smoke up your arse?
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Conflating two issues..

Never said superchips was a bad company…there are many other suppliers of remaps…that was what I was referring too..

Unlike you, I’ve spent around 5 years tuning E89s with over 50 dyno runs, 9 separate tuning events, 10 days with the tuning dyno guys who have tuned 100s of BMWs do have seen just about every bodge and every good set up..that’s more or less all they do for the last 10 years..

I’ve also worked with around 20 different cars / tuners on a variety of BMW engines..

So my empirical knowledge is very very substantial..unlike yours..plus I can read ..which seems to annoy you for some reason!
 
I found a wonderful and well-priced tuner in my local fishmonger. Didn't give me any extra power though, just made the car smell fishy and made me realise I'm dyslexic.
 
Asking for a friend but in the event of a claim how would the insurance company know the car had been mapped?

From what I've heard (off a bloke in the pub) it seems they settle most claims online without even sending out a loss assessor.
 
Gwest44 said:
Asking for a friend but in the event of a claim how would the insurance company know the car had been mapped?

From what I've heard (off a bloke in the pub) it seems they settle most claims online without even sending out a loss assessor.
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Not sure, but I'm pretty sure my car must have been done before I bought it :rofl:

And now I just have to wait for Pondy to say there's a date in the software
 
Gwest44 said:
Asking for a friend but in the event of a claim how would the insurance company know the car had been mapped?

From what I've heard (off a bloke in the pub) it seems they settle most claims online without even sending out a loss assessor.
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Generally you'd need some level of ECU diagnostic tool to find out..physical inspection may reveal on N20 the ECU being opened up for the jumper cable..BMW's tools spots it straight away..

Dongle type devices cause a variety of engine warnings that more code readers can see..
 
Gwest44 said:
Asking for a friend but in the event of a claim how would the insurance company know the car had been mapped?

From what I've heard (off a bloke in the pub) it seems they settle most claims online without even sending out a loss assessor.
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With no knowledge whatsoever, I would guess that they won't know and they they wouldn't bother to even look at it unless there is a strong and obvious reason to.

On the other hand, it costs next to nothing to declare a remap so I don't see any reason not to do so.
 
tiglon said:
With no knowledge whatsoever, I would guess that they won't know and they they wouldn't bother to even look at it unless there is a strong and obvious reason to.

On the other hand, it costs next to nothing to declare a remap so I don't see any reason not to do so.
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I suspect in the event of a fatality they’d choose to have a look…
 
tiglon said:
On the other hand, it costs next to nothing to declare a remap so I don't see any reason not to do so.
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When we had our 18i mapped it cost nothing extra on the insurance. Which I found bizarre as on an 18i it was an 80% increase in bhp.
 
tiglon said:
With no knowledge whatsoever, I would guess that they won't know and they they wouldn't bother to even look at it unless there is a strong and obvious reason to.

On the other hand, it costs next to nothing to declare a remap so I don't see any reason not to do so.
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As with all things insurance related there are no generalisations.

I'm with Ageas UK and they won't continue cover for a mapped 18i and assuming the gain is more than 25% the quotes from Confused.com or all north of £265 more to cover the remap.

In summary it would be much cheaper for me to insure a Z4M than it would a mapped 18i - as usual in "insurance land" nothing makes sense!
 
Gwest44 said:
As with all things insurance related there are no generalisations.

I'm with Ageas UK and they won't continue cover for a mapped 18i and assuming the gain is more than 25% the quotes from Confused.com or all north of £265 more to cover the remap.

In summary it would be much cheaper for me to insure a Z4M than it would a mapped 18i - as usual in "insurance land" nothing makes sense!
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I'm with admiral for my Audi, quote for remap (they don't ask what the power gain is) is about £60 extra, including other engine modifications.
 
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