Engine swap on E85 2.0 to 3.0

This is what I was trying to get my head around!
I guess I've been cooped up inside too long and my brain functionality has been affected detrimentally. :fightwall: I kid you not!
 
I think we need a separate discussion page for all of the 2.0l owners like myself
To discuss our soon to be rare and desirable
Z4's
The 4 pot page 😜
 
From the vintage Ducati side of things (which I have some experience in...thus Old-"Duck"man)...Back in the day you could not give a Ducati single cylinder motorcycle away...Now they are desirable.

I like the line of thought that the 2.0 will be, let's say, an unusual find in future years and therefore desirable to collectors. But, I also agree that time might be far in the future...but who knows. If you have garage space and the funds to have two, then keep the 2.0 and acquire a 3.0 as well. If those possibilities are out of the question for the present time then I would follow the advice of those who say sell the 2.0 and get the 3.0.

IMO, FWIW
 
I'll give you 50 quid for the 2.0. No questions asked.
Be best if I take it off your hands before you're lumbered with it :D
 
Years back I had a pristine 2.8i Special Capri which I showed and used at weekends.
As a runabout I had a Mk2 Capri 1.3L. Engine so small there was a spacer bracket at the front of the engine bay to move the radiator back closer to the block. :rofl:

Chalk and cheese. Definitely had to remember which one I was in!
Funniest moment was slip-streaming a lorry in the Mk2 on a windy day; pulled out to overtake on a dual-carriageway and a mile later had to admit defeat and pull back in behind it. :cry:

But oh boy did it make the 2.8i more fun when I got back in that! :driving:
 
Old-Duckman said:
I like the line of thought that the 2.0 will be, let's say, an unusual find in future years and therefore desirable to collectors.
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They'll never, ever have any value in the future.

1. Modern cars comfortably out-last anything made pre-90s, so there'll be more of them around; when there's choice, people always want the one that's the rarest. Having owned quite a few classics, the "bottom spec" cars only become popular/desirable when there are none of the "higher spec" cars left, or there are none left at sensible prices.
2. The Z4 has a shared platform and so parts are easily accessible, BMW can keep the supply going as financially it's worth their while given the number of models those parts can/will fit.
3. Pursuant to #1, people will begin ditching traditional fossil-fuel cars in 8-10 years as the ban comes into place, and so the market will become flooded with "classic cars" and therefore potential purchaser will have a greater choice. They'll go for the rarer options first as they're more like to retain their value.

People buy a 1.6 Laser Capri as there are hardly any Tickfords left.
 
eddiemunster said:
Old-Duckman said:
I like the line of thought that the 2.0 will be, let's say, an unusual find in future years and therefore desirable to collectors.
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They'll never, ever have any value in the future.

1. Modern cars comfortably out-last anything made pre-90s, so there'll be more of them around; when there's choice, people always want the one that's the rarest. Having owned quite a few classics, the "bottom spec" cars only become popular/desirable when there are none of the "higher spec" cars left, or there are none left at sensible prices.
2. The Z4 has a shared platform and so parts are easily accessible, BMW can keep the supply going as financially it's worth their while given the number of models those parts can/will fit.
3. Pursuant to #1, people will begin ditching traditional fossil-fuel cars in 8-10 years as the ban comes into place, and so the market will become flooded with "classic cars" and therefore potential purchaser will have a greater choice. They'll go for the rarer options first as they're more like to retain their value.

People buy a 1.6 Laser Capri as there are hardly any Tickfords left.
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Well that's it then!
Here endeth the lesson :roll:
 
eddiemunster said:
They'll never, ever have any value in the future.

1. Modern cars comfortably out-last anything made pre-90s, so there'll be more of them around; when there's choice, people always want the one that's the rarest. Having owned quite a few classics, the "bottom spec" cars only become popular/desirable when there are none of the "higher spec" cars left, or there are none left at sensible prices.
2. The Z4 has a shared platform and so parts are easily accessible, BMW can keep the supply going as financially it's worth their while given the number of models those parts can/will fit.
3. Pursuant to #1, people will begin ditching traditional fossil-fuel cars in 8-10 years as the ban comes into place, and so the market will become flooded with "classic cars" and therefore potential purchaser will have a greater choice. They'll go for the rarer options first as they're more like to retain their value.

People buy a 1.6 Laser Capri as there are hardly any Tickfords left.
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I agree with all you said, but I particularly liked your reference to a 1.6 Laser Capri!

A mate of mine is currently selling a mint MK3 Capri 1.6L in beige that has had one previous owner and done about 35,000 miles IIRC. :lol:

But I wouldn't want it at any price - both my Capris were 2.8 Injections! And even one of those would feel a bit gutless after years of BMW petrol straight 6s.
 
Mr Tidy said:
A mate of mine is currently selling a mint MK3 Capri 1.6L in beige that has had one previous owner and done about 35,000 miles IIRC. :lol:
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It'll go in a heartbeat, and if it's in decent condition I'll have a stab at £8k upwards! :D

I keep an eye on the classic market, it's absolutely mental at the moment, truly daft, but the vintage Fords have always attracted strong money and in particular the Capri/Escorts from the 70s/early 80s. Mk2 Capri, in white, every man in his 40s upwards wants to mince around like Terrence McCann; Mk2, in biege or silver, every man in his 40s upwards wants to mince around like Bodie and Doyle (with a bit of Escort Mk2 too) :D
 
eddiemunster said:
It'll go in a heartbeat, and if it's in decent condition I'll have a stab at £8k upwards!

I keep an eye on the classic market, it's absolutely mental at the moment, truly daft, but the vintage Fords have always attracted strong money and in particular the Capri/Escorts from the 70s/early 80s. Mk2 Capri, in white, every man in his 40s upwards wants to mince around like Terrence McCann; Mk2, in biege or silver, every man in his 40s upwards wants to mince around like Bodie and Doyle (with a bit of Escort Mk2 too)
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Interesting number you mention as it was entered in the Historics auction at Ascot a few weeks ago, and failed to sell at £7,000!
 
Mr Tidy said:
Interesting number you mention as it was entered in the Historics auction at Ascot a few weeks ago, and failed to sell at £7,000!
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Auctions are rarely the best place to sell mid-classics, only really the marquee brands get good enough publicity to get serious buyers in. And, it's almost the worst time to sell, and probably the worst time to be holding stock in my lifetime given the current health crisis.

If someone wants a cheap car, and has the money now, I'd say this would be the time to get a bargain.
 
I just don't understand :? , I like many on here remember when Mk1 escorts, capri's etc were the option for your new car. They were crap then, why would I want one now? As for "are they worth it? " hell NO. :lol:
Before someone asks my first car was a VW Golf and would I want it now? No not really, but in my opinion it was a better car than an escort. :fuelfire:
 
Jl-c said:
I just don't understand :? , I like many on here remember when Mk1 escorts, capri's etc were the option for your new car. They were crap then, why would I want one now? As for "are they worth it? " hell NO. :lol:
Before someone asks my first car was a VW Golf and would I want it now? No not really, but in my opinion it was a better car than an escort. :fuelfire:
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Philistine! :poke: :rofl:
 
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