Engine Flush

czechT698

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 Prague
My car already has 130k Km on the clock. Sometimes I get ticking and rattling noises on idle, on startup the car sometimes makes a grinding sound like it would be full od sand. I was thinking I might give this a go... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m8RiWe8vNU&feature=related


Any experiences with engine flushes here? Do BMW´s "accept" them? :) Thanks
 
My personnel preference for this type of internal engine cleaning is a product called AutoRX. http://www.auto-rx.com/index.html
 
Grinding noise when starting up could be the starter motor not disengaging quick enough :)
 
Shipkiller, thanks. I did some research, did you ever use it? To what extent do you think it´s effective? :)

Adam D, yes, my cousin told me the same :o
 
Today evening I will upload some pictures of the excrement colored gunk on my oil cap as well as a picure of the inside of the filling hole, something just does not feel right, I might as well start using the Auto RX. I read on another forum that agressive 10minute oil flushes shouldnt be used as if there is any sludge, large chunks could be agiated and released, causing a block in oil circulation an therefore thousands worth of damage :o
 
czechT698 said:
Today evening I will upload some pictures of the excrement colored gunk on my oil cap as well as a picture of the inside of the filling hole, something just does not feel right, I might as well start using the Auto RX. I read on another forum that aggressive 10minute oil flushes shouldnt be used as if there is any sludge, large chunks could be agiated and released, causing a block in oil circulation an therefore thousands worth of damage :o


That's why I use AutoRX.
 
Shipkiller, hope they ship overseas :) You seem like an oil guru, is there any way of telling the presence of sludge without having to open the top of the engine?
 
There are various types of 'sludge'.

On a BMW, the most prevalent kinds of sludge a motor will get when properly maintained, ie. oil changes LESS than the 15k mile interval will be the thin coating on the various parts.

Notice the brown coating on my Vanos assembly. Stuff like that..

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The stuff that you really have to worry about is the crap that lays in the bottom of your oil pan. That is the stuff that can restrict oil flow, clog oil passages etc.
When you use a harsh quick type of flush that you pour in with or in place of your oil, you do run the risk of breaking up the heavy sludge and restricting oil flow.

Because BMW's are supposed to use real synthetic oil, not a synthetic blend, real synthetic oil has heavy cleaning properties and the the build up of the heavy stuff (sludge) is greatly reduced. To answer your question, I guess you could such the oil out of the bottom of the oil pan with a oil evacuation pump or something similar and look for the heavy stuff. Or if you had access to some type of Bore Scope, you could look inside your valve train that way. It is really easy to pull your valve cover off......

Slow dissolving cleaners (like AutoRX) slowly over time, clean the engine and allow the oil filter to trap the contaminants.

Since I bought my car with 47K on it, and it was four years old, I do not know how it was maintained, but as you can see, I bet it was at the 15K intervals. After doing the Vanos Oil Seal repair, I used AutoRX and after 8K miles (two treatments), I took the top off the engine again. I did not take a picture but all that brown crap was gone and everything was nice an shiny. If you halve the oil change interval down to about 7-8K miles, which is what I do now, then the synthetic oils natural cleaning properties will greatly reduce or even keep that brown crap from building up.
I have seen this on other Z4 forums.
 
Shipkiller, thank you!!! Thats the product I am looking for since I bought my car at 120k kilometeres and I have no idea how it was maintained besides all the 15k intervals done. Will order some of that RX and start using it right away :)
 
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