Energy price cap

TitanTim said:
I'm having a new heat only boiler fitted this Tues so will be interested to see how much more efficient it is if at all compared to my current one at 21 years.

Tim.

I doubt the new boilers will live anywhere near as long, that’s got to be figured into the total cost as well :o
Rob
 
TitanTim said:
I'm having a new heat only boiler fitted this Tues so will be interested to see how much more efficient it is if at all compared to my current one at 21 years.
You won't know Tim, as the price of the juice to run it will have gone up by 50%, so impossible to compare.

One thing that is worth remembering with 'SEDBUK A' rated condensing boilers, is that the efficiency is rated at a constant 55 degrees C return temperature to the boiler. Delta T (difference between input and output temps of all appliances) is impossible to measure for the home owner and your boiler will at best give you output temps (never both).

I (for a laugh) installed temperature sensors on the flow and return pipework from a boiler in my last house. It was a brand new system with a band 'A' boiler. It not once in three years met the criteria to meet the standards of SEDBUK band A! :o

It's like manufacturer MPG figures, utter bollox which mean nothing in the real world. :D

BTW air source heat pumps are NOT the answer to our prayers. They are s*it. They were never designed to do the job they are being used to do. The COP (coefficient of performance) figures quoted are measured under the same 'ideal' criteria as the others above. Someone has lobbied Government enough to make them think they are the second coming, though.
 
This from Martin Lewis (of money saving expert) on the new cap. He does say there may be some regional variations
 

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Smartbear said:
TitanTim said:
I'm having a new heat only boiler fitted this Tues so will be interested to see how much more efficient it is if at all compared to my current one at 21 years.

Tim.

I doubt the new boilers will live anywhere near as long, that’s got to be figured into the total cost as well :o
Rob

That's why I've been putting it off Rob, the Glowworm that I currently have is reasonably simple and has a cast iron heat exchanger I think so not that much to go wrong. I just thought a few hundred to fix is a little much with no guarantee it will cure the issue I've been having.

Ironically it's been running fine since I've organised for a new boiler :headbang:

At least the new boiler has a 10 year warranty with it being installed by an accredited installer oh and comes with a free filter :) which completely sold it for me :lol:

Tim.
 
Yes we have just changed our old 37 yr old gas boiler, not serviced for the 27 yrs we have lived here. Bad but cheap. The guy that fitted it seemed to think that it wouldn’t last anywhere near that long. Incidentally he didn’t rate heat pumps at all.
 
They don't make things to last, boilers are no different to white goods, throw away after a few years, and we're trying to live in a sustainable world.

Tim.
 
Jeepers, my fixed deal with British Gas ran out in October and thought about going variable, think I'm glad I didn't. Went with two year fixed at Gas @ 4.15p/kWh + 27.22ppd and Elec 20.269p/kWh + 29.199ppd
 
sars said:
Jeepers, my fixed deal with British Gas ran out in October and thought about going variable, think I'm glad I didn't. Went with two year fixed at Gas @ 4.15p/kWh + 27.22ppd and Elec 20.269p/kWh + 29.199ppd

That's what I Sars, my duel fuel fixed tariff ended in December and seeing the 500 quid rise if I stuck to another fixed tariff I was tempted to not do anything and go onto a default variable. That's what all the supposid experts were saying :roll: Thought I would gamble and go within other fixed rate until Dec 23. Glad I did now but that's not to say next year rates could tumble and I could end up paying more. Having said that there is predictions costs will go up even further later in the year.

Tim.
 
[ref]TitanTim[/ref], I think it's not having to worry about it for a few years that made me do it. Fixed my mortgage again for three years but after yesterday wish I'd done it for five I think.

Then today we have the BofE calling for wage restraint after increasing base rates to 0.5% to try and control inflation, which is rising due to increases in fuel charges and raised transportation costs, not by a booming economy :x
 
I am still holding out for a fixed rate, they keep calling back and it has dropped by 2p per KwH so far but still too much.

I am on 14400 KwH per year usage at the moment, so I need a decent deal. I can't really reduce the consumption as I am running so many servers and other computer hardware all the time.
 
pvr said:
I am still holding out for a fixed rate, they keep calling back and it has dropped by 2p per KwH so far but still too much.

I am on 14400 KwH per year usage at the moment, so I need a decent deal. I can't really reduce the consumption as I am running so many servers and other computer hardware all the time.
Yes but think about all that revenue you get from hosting all those porn sites :lol:
 
sars said:
Then today we have the BofE calling for wage restraint after increasing base rates to 0.5% to try and control inflation, which is rising due to increases in fuel charges and raised transportation costs, not by a booming economy :x

You put your finger on where the issue is and why IMHO all the wining about taxes, party X and party Y would do better or even why boiler vs heat pump and gas vs electric cars is silly... All of that is due to a world wide energy crisis... Currently it is mainly due to economy restart after Covid but next it may be gas crisis due to Russia shutting the pipes or simply the decline of oil extraction.

The real solution is to move towards as much energy independance as possible and IMHO it needs two parralel actions: electrification and producing your electricity from sources with low dependancy and market risks, eg: renewable and nuke
 
Ole gits rule said:
£10k, nah I think I can get that sorted cheaper

I loked at heat pump as I replaced my boiler last year - £3k V 312k and save £350 a year so a no brainer to go for gas boiler
Agree but choose one that can be easily converted to hydrogen if we eventually get to that scenario which I doubt will happen in my lifetime.
 
Nanu said:
Ole gits rule said:
£10k, nah I think I can get that sorted cheaper

I loked at heat pump as I replaced my boiler last year - £3k V 312k and save £350 a year so a no brainer to go for gas boiler
Agree but choose one that can be easily converted to hydrogen if we eventually get to that scenario which I doubt will happen in my lifetime.

Can't see the hydrogen stuff coming out in my lifetime either - think gas boilers are going to be here for a while yet
 
My current tariff lasts till August this year, hopefully this will have resolved itself by then!
 

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Amazing to think in the 21st century more and more pensioners will now have to choose between food or not freezing to death.

Woefull lack of planning by the Government.

Tim.
 
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