Electric Z4

I think the average annual miles is closer to 10,000 than 5,000 - but I agree range anxiety is a non issue for most people. I do around 12,000 a year but most electric cars would give sufficient range for my daily needs. What is an issue is if you don't have off road parking where you can fit a charger.

The infrastructure needs to improve, but I'm sure it will. There will inevitably be different solutions for longer distance travel (such as hydrogen) as well as rapid improvement of battery technology (solid state is apparently on it's way with 500+ mile ranges and superfast charging).

I'm just hoping and praying for Porsche and their friends to find a way of mass producing that eco fuel they are working on!
 
Nanu said:
I have posted on this very subject when the G29 was first released for sale. Think BMW missed a trick on this one. They already have the proven technology in the i8, so why didn't they just transfer that system (No doubt with a couple of tweaks) and make the Z4 a hybrid?

Imagine the performance of the i8 in a Z4? Under 4 seconds perhaps for the 0-60?

If they had done it in the e89 would have defo bought one. :thumbsup:
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isn't the i8 slower than a z4 ? I think its 4.4 for the i8 and around 4seconds flat for the Z4 or something untuned
 
The i8 is 4.4 and the 35is is 4.8.

With the set up in the i8 it can be rear, front or 4 wheel drive which would be interesting in the Z4. With a smaller lighter body the Z4 would come down
 
Ah i thought you were talking about the G29 :) , m40i is a little faster already 3.9 for the us model and the eu model is 4.5 (but thats to 62mph so probably about the same as the i8 then)

Also you only have the i8 power when the battery is charged, so most of the time it will be a lot slower and you'll just be pulling around extra weight for no reason. Not sure how far you can drive on the hybrid battery for an i8 but i think on the new 3series it was about 50km.

If I'm not mistaken the i8 is also one of the BMW cars with the most problems because of the hybrid setup it uses. But some, if not most, of these problems are most likely already resolved in the newer hybrid models :)


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In my opinion electric driving is not the way to go in the long run, if everyone would buy an eclectic car and plug it in at night the power net would most likely end up getting overloaded. (ok it can grow with the sales of new cars, but so would the impact on the environment) Also the production/recycling of batteries and lifespan of batteries will be a big issue if everyone would start driving electric cars. Is a good way to meet the emission norms for now in the short term. But I don't think its sustainable.

I believe more in something like this, simply because its more practical
https://www.dw.com/en/porsche-to-pr... eFuels as,the huge greenhouse gas emissions.
 
I would only ever use an i8 on full sport / hybrid mode and never the electric only. Driven a one loaned to me for a day by one of my local stealerships and it was fantastic to drive. The handling and drive was superb.
 
Marcusbimmer said:
To me a roadster is the last car that should be electric.
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I think its envirol effectiveness is also the least.
Roadsters are typical cars that don't make many miles. they are typically not used for commuting.
When they are used, it's often for vacations, daytrips etc. So longer distances.
They are also not used for shopping.

And both the commuting and the shopping are aspects that benefit the most of an electric driveline.
The first as that is generally the bulk of the miles, in relative short stretches that most EV's can handle.
The 2nd one are also short stretches that all ev's can handle, and it is per definition in an area where you want emissions to be low (urban area)
Especially a short drive to the shops is the distance where an ICE pollutes the most (first 5min of a drive)
 
It feels like we've only recently started to see 'proper' electric cars, that is, cars that look and act like cars rather than milk floats. If I could afford it I'd have a Taycan, no question. To me it's a proper sporty car, the fact that it's electric is a huge bonus. Personally, I'm not wedded to ICE, except for the sound, such a shame to lose that, but it's going now anyway, what with the new noise restrictions.

If Porsche ever bring out an electric Cayman or Boxster I'm there. I don't see what the issue would be with having an electric Z4. I love the body style. If it's not got an ICE but still looks great and goes like stink then who cares?
 
GuidoK said:
Marcusbimmer said:
To me a roadster is the last car that should be electric.
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I think its envirol effectiveness is also the least.
Roadsters are typical cars that don't make many miles. they are typically not used for commuting.
When they are used, it's often for vacations, daytrips etc. So longer distances.
They are also not used for shopping.

And both the commuting and the shopping are aspects that benefit the most of an electric driveline.
The first as that is generally the bulk of the miles, in relative short stretches that most EV's can handle.
The 2nd one are also short stretches that all ev's can handle, and it is per definition in an area where you want emissions to be low (urban area)
Especially a short drive to the shops is the distance where an ICE pollutes the most (first 5min of a drive)
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Mine is used every day in all circumstances as its my only car. 1 mile journey to the supermarket today to collect a few cases of discounted beer and 150 miles yesterday for a drive around Northumberland.
 
For me the enjoyment of a sports car is more than just speed, otherwise I'd just have got a Model 3 Performance. The noise is a big part of it (yes, you can recreate that but it wouldn't feel real) but also the characteristics of ICE's - electric cars are brilliant, but their motors all feel the same as one another in terms of personality. There are probably some clips or quotes out there from Clarkson or Harris explaining it much better than I could.

Being in my 30's, I'm probably going to spend more than half of my life driving electric cars (or being driven by them!) so I'd rather enjoy a glorious ICE now while I still can. In 20/30 years something like a straight six Z4 will either be extinct or cost an absolute fortune as a classic.

So, yeah, I suppose I probably would buy an electric Z4 or Boxster, but not just yet - I'm going to live in the past while I still can. It's a bit like having the chance to get a pet dinosaur a few years before the meteor is expected to hit and wipe them out... "no thanks mate, dogs are the future, I'll take a golden retriever please" or "f@#k yes give me that dino and two cows for it to eat!"?

I'll have plenty of time to have fun with a labrador, so I'll stick with my velociraptor for now :thumbsup:
 
Nanu said:
Mine is used every day in all circumstances as its my only car. 1 mile journey to the supermarket today to collect a few cases of discounted beer and 150 miles yesterday for a drive around Northumberland.
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Then yours is the exception.
For your car 10 garage queens.
 
Ian J said:
mr.tourette said:
Its hard for me to have an opinion having never driven an electric car, cant help feeling it would be a soulless experience but I'd like to be convinced otherwise
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I've also never driven one but I have been a passenger in a Tesla and anything with that stunning acceleration cannot be soulless
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I have been a passenger in a Tesla & driven a Nissan Leaf , lets put it this way im never going to own an electric car
 
GuidoK said:
Nanu said:
Mine is used every day in all circumstances as its my only car. 1 mile journey to the supermarket today to collect a few cases of discounted beer and 150 miles yesterday for a drive around Northumberland.
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Then yours is the exception.
For your car 10 garage queens.
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Sorry thats wrong my Z4 when I had it & my Porsche now are my daily drives , why would you spend all that money on a car and not use it , makes no sense
 
chasBMW said:
Sorry thats wrong my Z4 when I had it & my Porsche now are my daily drives , why would you spend all that money on a car and not use it , makes no sense
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Maybe look at some statistics?
Look at z4's for sale on carsites from a certain era and look at how many miles they have driven on average and then look at say a 3 series from the same era and look how many miles they have driven on average.
You'll see that the 3 series cars will have driven way more on average per car.
So it's not wrong. It's just that your car isn't setting the average for all cars.
It's just a fact: roadsters drive on average less miles than normal cars.
This even goes for the metal roofed e89. (for something like a boxster, they drive on average less miles than an e89)
 
I think when you've got a £10-15k previous generation Z4 on the drive the likelihood is that it'd be your 2nd car. When it's a one/two year old £50k G29, maybe not (unless you've also got a £100k Range Rover on the drive too!).
 
chasBMW said:
GuidoK said:
Nanu said:
Mine is used every day in all circumstances as its my only car. 1 mile journey to the supermarket today to collect a few cases of discounted beer and 150 miles yesterday for a drive around Northumberland.
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Then yours is the exception.
For your car 10 garage queens.
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Sorry thats wrong my Z4 when I had it & my Porsche now are my daily drives , why would you spend all that money on a car and not use it , makes no sense
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PS Don't care for the G29 but your colour combo sounds nice
 
handymanuk said:
I think when you've got a £10-15k previous generation Z4 on the drive the likelihood is that it'd be your 2nd car. When it's a one/two year old £50k G29, maybe not (unless you've also got a £100k Range Rover on the drive too!).
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Funny this came up. I live in London and drive around a lot. Felt like I would be killing my m40i far too quickly
Also add the cost of £15 a day 7 days a week congestion charge then an electric work car starts to make sense.

Im dipping my toe into electric now. £370 a month, no deposit, Tax deductible and only 30 day contract. Gonna see how it works out for me.
I never thought I would go electric. I love the 6 cylinder engine.
 
ori said:
handymanuk said:
I think when you've got a £10-15k previous generation Z4 on the drive the likelihood is that it'd be your 2nd car. When it's a one/two year old £50k G29, maybe not (unless you've also got a £100k Range Rover on the drive too!).
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Funny this came up. I live in London and drive around a lot. Felt like I would be killing my m40i far too quickly
Also add the cost of £15 a day 7 days a week congestion charge then an electric work car starts to make sense.

Im dipping my toe into electric now. £370 a month, no deposit, Tax deductible and only 30 day contract. Gonna see how it works out for me.
I never thought I would go electric. I love the 6 cylinder engine.
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You could record the sound and just play it with the windows down when driving around?
 
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