E89 rear slippery on wet country roads - Best solution ? Tyres ?

Thankyou very much for the replies, I am a great fan of Michelin tyres on my bikes so probably go down the same route for the car. Expensive job for all 4 which will include taking less than half worn fronts off, a few of my work colleagues swapped out run flats on various 3 series cars and all wax lyrical obout the improvement in ride and grip etc.
 
Ming said:
Ditched the OE run flats and replaced with 4 Vredestein Ultrac Vortis and they're phenomenal in the wet and dry. Got caught in a massive thunderstorm last week and they coped with flooded roads, gravel and rocks washed over the road and not one slip.
Now I just to figure out a way of removing the grass etc that have dried on the rad and intercooler behind the grille. Hoover attachments won't fit and I don't really want to poke a stick through the gaps in case the soft metal gets damaged.
Maybe an airline at a petrol station?

I bought one of these for those kind of jobs.. honestly one of the best tools I have ever bought, bit pricey but performs very well, amazing how many uses you start finding for one once you have it :D


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Ditch the shocks, the basic standards are rubbish. Go Bilsteins, i had same problem with traction flashing on country roads, even in the dry.
 
bluesun89 said:
Thanks guys for all the advice. I have just ordered 4 x Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (non runflat), to be fitted on Wed. And you are right, I care much more about not aquaplaning into a tree when the road is slippery, than about dealing with a hypothetical puncture.

I will add a 12V tyre inflator, that's actually great advice, didn't think that was an option.
Good choice, you will love them.
 
For context, I am on 18" wheels and it did cost me 460gbp all-in for the four Pilot Sport 4 order at ATS Euromasters (all quotes online were landing in the 440-500gbp area). Im sure i could have get them a little cheaper if i digged further, but their garage in my area has v high satisfaction rating, and i just want to get it done right.
Also, am sure that's way less than BMW main dealer would have charged me :)
 
I'm always one to err on the side of caution with insurance, I contacted mine (Hastings) and told them of my intention to change from RFT (when funds permit - thanks COVID! ) they just made a note on the file and confirmed it by email, no cost, just worth it for the peace of mind.
 
Just curious, when changing from RFT to non runflat tyres on a E89), we can still re-initialise sucessfully the Tyre Pressuring indicator, correct ?

(According to the owner manual, they call it "runflat indicator RPA" - but since its a calculation based on anomalies in tyre rotation speeds, rather than a sensor, it shouldnt matter whether or not i am using RFT or normal tyres?)
 
bluesun89 said:
Just curious, when changing from RFT to non runflat tyres on a E89), we can still re-initialise sucessfully the Tyre Pressuring indicator, correct ?

(According to the owner manual, they call it "runflat indicator RPA" - but since its a calculation based on anomalies in tyre rotation speeds, rather than a sensor, it shouldnt matter whether or not i am using RFT or normal tyres?)

Works perfectly well on mine.
Obviously you need to reset it once you have the new tyres fitted, and if you play around with pressures, you need to reset it to suit those each time too.
Easy to do though.

As an aside, and knowing these things always bring out claim and counter claim, after some experimentation with Goodyear Assy 5s on my 18" rims, I am now running 34psi front and 36psi rear and it suits me fine.
 
Thanks for the advice - I have just had the Pilot Sport 4 (non runflat) put on the Zed today, will try this weekend to see if the grip is better on wet roads.
But yeah i can already feel the difference in comfort on the road bumps..
 
take it easy the first few miles... high performance tyres will likely need to do a couple hundred miles before they perform optimally, they may well be very very slippery when they're fresh on the car!
 
Are you saying it loses grip in a straight line? Is it actually losing grip or is it just the traction control light coming on?
 
Lazza said:
Are you saying it loses grip in a straight line? Is it actually losing grip or is it just the traction control light coming on?

I just took mine out tonight on fresh tyres for a spirited drive, i did get a few traction lights coming on including flooring it in 3rd for a fast overtake, never lost grip at any point though
 
Swapped RF for a set of non runflat Michelins from Costco.
Run at a lower pressure than RF too.
One of these fits down the side of the battery on an E85 - I thought they were standard as they were in the 04 2.5 and 07 30si we had / have.
 

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mr.tourette said:
Lazza said:
Are you saying it loses grip in a straight line? Is it actually losing grip or is it just the traction control light coming on?

I just took mine out tonight on fresh tyres for a spirited drive, i did get a few traction lights coming on including flooring it in 3rd for a fast overtake, never lost grip at any point though
That's fairly normal on new tyres as they have a release agent (which is why they are shiney) and need a few wear/heat cycles before they start working as well as they can.

I was going to ask bluesun89 what size tyres he has front & rear as if you change one end by more than the other end it can trigger the TC & ABS in normal driving.
 
I was on these tyres (stock dimensions & stock model) Bridgestone Potenza RFT :
- Front : 225/40/18
- Rear : 255/35/18

And it was starting to loose grip on wet, uneven country roads (mostly straight), and more clearly when turning.
Also a couple of time completely straight highway road at 60-65mph, when it was really pouring.
and no, I didnt notice the traction light coming off (although tbh i didnt have time to look at the dash, was mostly focused on reducing speed and getting grip back :? )

Just changed to Michelin Pilot Sport 4 non-RFT, and so far I get a sense that I am having much better grip indeed. although to be fair it hasnt been raining hard / pouring so can't really compare, but Im confident my previous tyres just didnt seem to do the job right (and again, i'm driving gently, no spirited driving..)
 
bluesun89 said:
I was on these tyres (stock dimensions & stock model) Bridgestone Potenza RFT :
- Front : 225/40/18
- Rear : 255/35/18

And it was starting to loose grip on wet, uneven country roads (mostly straight), and more clearly when turning.
Also a couple of time completely straight highway road at 60-65mph, when it was really pouring.
and no, I didnt notice the traction light coming off (although tbh i didnt have time to look at the dash, was mostly focused on reducing speed and getting grip back :? )

Just changed to Michelin Pilot Sport 4 non-RFT, and so far I get a sense that I am having much better grip indeed. although to be fair it hasnt been raining hard / pouring so can't really compare, but Im confident my previous tyres just didnt seem to do the job right (and again, i'm driving gently, no spirited driving..)

Yup, those are the same sizes as mine; see my earlier reply with the pressures I'm using (F34, R36). But mine are GY Assy 5s so you may end up using subtly different pressures?
 
For now i am still using the same pressures as for the RFT (i think F36, R39) - the guys at Euromasters put them on F39 R39 and i told them that it was a mistake for the front, which they acknoledged - but they didnt want to take it lower elsewhere (they argued RFT or not is irrelevant) :x
I'll just reduce the pressure myself after a few hundred miles
 
bluesun89 said:
For now i am still using the same pressures as for the RFT (i think F36, R39) - the guys at Euromasters put them on F39 R39 and i told them that it was a mistake for the front, which they acknoledged - but they didnt want to take it lower elsewhere (they argued RFT or not is irrelevant) :x
I'll just reduce the pressure myself after a few hundred miles

That is an ongoing bone of contention on here tbh. Some stick rigidly to the book figures and others adjust to what they feel works for them.
 
enuff_zed said:
bluesun89 said:
For now i am still using the same pressures as for the RFT (i think F36, R39) - the guys at Euromasters put them on F39 R39 and i told them that it was a mistake for the front, which they acknoledged - but they didnt want to take it lower elsewhere (they argued RFT or not is irrelevant) :x
I'll just reduce the pressure myself after a few hundred miles

That is an ongoing bone of contention on here tbh. Some stick rigidly to the book figures and others adjust to what they feel works for them.

Oh dear it was going so well till he mentioned "t$r£ p$ss&res" :tumbleweed:
 
Haha - I don't think I would feel the difference tbh at +/- 0.2 psi, I'll just go -0.2psi below the recommended setting and leave it like this.

Great car color btw Pbondar, I was looking for Atacama yellow when i was in the market for a Zed earlier last year, but there were none (so ended up buying a more boring 2014 mineral grey )
 
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