E89 Mods and Experiences

Gabz

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 London, UK
Having had my Z4 for almost 2 years now, I thought it's a good time to share some of the experiences I had with various mods people might be considering.

Limited Slip Diff - I had this mod on all my previous cars that came with an open diff so its cost was already calculated in my budget before buying the car (around £1.5k fitted). To me personally, the most enjoyable thing about driving is having that bit of opposite lock out of corners. Equally, the most disappointing thing in a RWD car - for me - is having one wheel spin up without the car going anywhere. An LSD remedies this nicely, so I got in touch with Birds UK to install a Quaife unit in the original diff housing. It's worth knowing that a helical differential like this is not really built for drifting (it never actually physically locks the two rear wheels together) but rather for maximum traction out of corners. This comes really handy when accelerating out of tight corners, especially in the wet. If you like to play around withy our Z4 and you're fan of opposite lock, this mod is imperative.

Suspension - One of my annoyances with the Z4 has always been the harsh yet wallowy suspension. Despite installing non-run-flat tyres, I've found the ride unnecessarily harsh, yet imprecise and vague when driven fast. I knew that fitting firmer suspension would only make the pain worse, so I decide to start at the dampers. I came across the Koni's Special Active kit which is supposed to mechanically differentiate low frequency (body roll) and high frequency (road imperfections) shock waves, and adjust the damping accordingly real time. On paper it sounds perfect: stiff in the corners and soft over bumps, without any electronics! I went ahead with these dampers (around £800 fitted) to see what all the fuss was about. I was surprised to find that the kit does what it says on the box. Imperfections are a little less harsh while body roll is significantly reduced despite running the original springs. While it won't make the Z4 any sharper or precise, it'll make the suspension a little easier to live with.

Air Filter - I went with the K&N replacement panel filter and have noticed no noticeable change in power or sound on the stock map. I imagine the filter becomes more of a restriction at higher power levels where airflow through the air box is higher. Unless you have a tune, I personally wouldn't bother.

Stage 1 Tune - This is where things get exciting! From factory the 35i puts out around 306 bhp, which feels plenty fast for the road. Because BMW seem to have left a healthy amount of margin on the N54 engine - later exploited in the 35IS and 1M - it'd almost seem like a waste not to unleash the extra horses with a simple tune. I have found that the easiest, cheapest and most rewarding solution here is the MHD flasher. It's an Android app which connects your phone / tablet to the DME via an USB-to-OBD2 cable. Using in-app purchases it lets you tune your car for around £200 all included. It also comes with handy features like logging, changing exhaust burble, setting boost limit by gear etc. If you do one mod to your N54, make sure it's this one! With the Stage 1+ map, you can up power to around 380 bhp, which makes night and day difference compared to the stock car. Make sure you have new spark plugs and leads just in case - they are likely to throw codes at higher power.

Stage 2 Tune - I'm not sure why I bothered pushing power beyond Stage 1, but it's not the worst decision I made in my life. To unleash more power (around 420 bhp), a couple of mods are needed first: An intercooler (to keep intake air temperatures low), a charge pipe (because the OEM plastic one likes to blow up under pressure), and catless downpipes (to enable higher flow while still passing MOT). Once these mods are purchased and fitted (budget around £1.6k), you can load MHD's Stage 2 maps which make a huge difference to how the car behaves. At this point you are pushing similar performance to an M4 or M2 Competition. Another great advantage of the bolt-on mods is the change in sound (louder burble and pops, more pronounced boost swoosh) and decreased spool times. At this point I'd highly recommend premium tyres on the rear and an LSD to put the power down.

With regards to brands, I went with a Mishimoto intercooler (relatively small, OEM fitment), VRSF downpipes and a Masata aluminium charge pipe.

Other mods - Perhaps my favourite mod was a steering wheel re-trim by Royal Steering Wheels. It brings the interior of the car back to new and you can choose from endless options in terms of materials colours, stitching etc. I went with a simple black, perforated + nappa leather combination https://www.instagram.com/p/BoBz83iH-PM/.

I also used Carly to unleash some features on the car, including roof folding in motion, side markers, digital speedo and such. More on this here: https://youtu.be/JtsxZu-m0Qc?t=569

After all this, the car still looks stock which I love:

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Hope this helped anyone who is looking into modding their Z4 or considering some of the brands above. I'm curious as to what experience you guys have with mods! :driving:
 
Really interesting right up, and thanks for sharing. I must admit the open diff on the Z4 I personally feel does let it down.

Shame that MHD do not offer the facility for the 4 pot as it looks to be a good addition.
 
Good thread, it seems I am going down a very similar path. I tried to get the Mishi FMIC but the seller just didn't seem keen to take my money so I've gone with a BMS that's about the same size. Also getting the charge pipe (although member R.92 has just pointed out that this seems to be a problem that doesn't affect the Z4).
I have MHD flasher (and the datalogging option) which I use with their orange wifi adapter so no dangling cables when logging or flashing. An added bonus of MHD is the code reader/clearer, although I have Carly for that as well. Carly has been good for coding things like the DRL's, folding side mirrors on lock/unlock etc.
I tried running a Stage 1 tune on stock components but ran into a boost pressure issue so am back to Stage 0 until I get the bolt-ons.
Loving the work you've done on your Zed :thumbsup:
 
Thanks for the kind words!

Interesting - didn’t know about the chargepipe thing on the Z4. The WIFI dongle looks very tempting too, might invest in that for easier logging.

What boost pressure issues did you have? I had overboost 30FE (if i remember correctly) a couple of times on Stage 1 and the problem was the wastegate controller solenoids. You can get a pair from eurocarparts for cheap and swap them in 20 minutes. That solved it for good for me.



enzed4 said:
Good thread, it seems I am going down a very similar path. I tried to get the Mishi FMIC but the seller just didn't seem keen to take my money so I've gone with a BMS that's about the same size. Also getting the charge pipe (although member R.92 has just pointed out that this seems to be a problem that doesn't affect the Z4).
I have MHD flasher (and the datalogging option) which I use with their orange wifi adapter so no dangling cables when logging or flashing. An added bonus of MHD is the code reader/clearer, although I have Carly for that as well. Carly has been good for coding things like the DRL's, folding side mirrors on lock/unlock etc.
I tried running a Stage 1 tune on stock components but ran into a boost pressure issue so am back to Stage 0 until I get the bolt-ons.
Loving the work you've done on your Zed :thumbsup:
 
How is the DCT behaving? I’ve read that tuning a 35i/S for more power means the DCT also needs a remap so it knows how to handle the increased torque. I’m guessing the MSD doesn’t do this.
 
Gabz said:
Thanks for the kind words!

Interesting - didn’t know about the chargepipe thing on the Z4. The WIFI dongle looks very tempting too, might invest in that for easier logging.

What boost pressure issues did you have? I had overboost 30FE (if i remember correctly) a couple of times on Stage 1 and the problem was the wastegate controller solenoids. You can get a pair from eurocarparts for cheap and swap them in 20 minutes. That solved it for good for me.



enzed4 said:
Good thread, it seems I am going down a very similar path. I tried to get the Mishi FMIC but the seller just didn't seem keen to take my money so I've gone with a BMS that's about the same size. Also getting the charge pipe (although member R.92 has just pointed out that this seems to be a problem that doesn't affect the Z4).
I have MHD flasher (and the datalogging option) which I use with their orange wifi adapter so no dangling cables when logging or flashing. An added bonus of MHD is the code reader/clearer, although I have Carly for that as well. Carly has been good for coding things like the DRL's, folding side mirrors on lock/unlock etc.
I tried running a Stage 1 tune on stock components but ran into a boost pressure issue so am back to Stage 0 until I get the bolt-ons.
Loving the work you've done on your Zed :thumbsup:
I was getting 30FE (Boost pressure control, boost pressure too high) and 3100 (Boost pressure control, shutdown).
Interesting it could be WG controller solenoids. I'll see if the codes come back after I've finished fitting the FMIC and chargepipe and have a chance to give it a decent run. Thanks for the tip.
Edit: I would have thought that faulty solenoids would cause a 30FF (underboost) code as they're not building pressure? (or holding pressure, sorry if I'm not 100% technically accurate).
 
Lazza said:
How is the DCT behaving? I’ve read that tuning a 35i/S for more power means the DCT also needs a remap so it knows how to handle the increased torque. I’m guessing the MSD doesn’t do this.

No problems with the DCT, works really well on version 7, 8 and 9 maps with no signs of slipping, early shifts or overheating. I think this is something they have consciously took into consideration.

Here are some posts from Wedge Performance (their maps are in MHD) regarding DCT:
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22389945&postcount=10488
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22389971&postcount=10489

enzed4 said:
Gabz said:
Thanks for the kind words!

Interesting - didn’t know about the chargepipe thing on the Z4. The WIFI dongle looks very tempting too, might invest in that for easier logging.

What boost pressure issues did you have? I had overboost 30FE (if i remember correctly) a couple of times on Stage 1 and the problem was the wastegate controller solenoids. You can get a pair from eurocarparts for cheap and swap them in 20 minutes. That solved it for good for me.



enzed4 said:
Good thread, it seems I am going down a very similar path. I tried to get the Mishi FMIC but the seller just didn't seem keen to take my money so I've gone with a BMS that's about the same size. Also getting the charge pipe (although member R.92 has just pointed out that this seems to be a problem that doesn't affect the Z4).
I have MHD flasher (and the datalogging option) which I use with their orange wifi adapter so no dangling cables when logging or flashing. An added bonus of MHD is the code reader/clearer, although I have Carly for that as well. Carly has been good for coding things like the DRL's, folding side mirrors on lock/unlock etc.
I tried running a Stage 1 tune on stock components but ran into a boost pressure issue so am back to Stage 0 until I get the bolt-ons.
Loving the work you've done on your Zed :thumbsup:
I was getting 30FE (Boost pressure control, boost pressure too high) and 3100 (Boost pressure control, shutdown).
Interesting it could be WG controller solenoids. I'll see if the codes come back after I've finished fitting the FMIC and chargepipe and have a chance to give it a decent run. Thanks for the tip.
Edit: I would have thought that faulty solenoids would cause a 30FF (underboost) code as they're not building pressure? (or holding pressure, sorry if I'm not 100% technically accurate).

I had the exact same issue (30FE and 3100) and MHD themselves advised I change the solenoids. Since then I never had any issues. From what I've read, faulty solenoids can cause both 30FF and 30FE (under and over boost). Let me know how it goes, I'm curious what caused you the issue.

Best,

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It depends how the logs look as to whether the fault is related to the boost solenoids. It's quite possible that the overboost codes are entirely tune related as the MHD OTS maps aren't perfect.
 
Lazza said:
How is the DCT behaving? I’ve read that tuning a 35i/S for more power means the DCT also needs a remap so it knows how to handle the increased torque. I’m guessing the MSD doesn’t do this.

The DCT handles the torque fine without any changes. The transmission automatically increases the clamping pressure on the clutch packs as the calculated engine torque rises.

The DCT is the strongest automatic box BMW currently makes, there's people with DCT cars up in the 1000hp range without any problems. Going beyond 1000hp there might be need for software changes to the TCU. There are currently several different companies developing DCT tunes but I don't expect anything to come to fruition this year.
 
R.E92 said:
It depends how the logs look as to whether the fault is related to the boost solenoids. It's quite possible that the overboost codes are entirely tune related as the MHD OTS maps aren't perfect.

Agreed - people had overboost issues with the 8.1 maps. Try the latest 9 maps if you can! :driving:


9 logs for me look OK from what I can tell:

https://datazap.me/u/ctgabz/9stg2?log=0&data=3-23
and
https://datazap.me/u/ctgabz/9stg2b?log=0&data=3-23
 
Gabz said:
R.E92 said:
It depends how the logs look as to whether the fault is related to the boost solenoids. It's quite possible that the overboost codes are entirely tune related as the MHD OTS maps aren't perfect.

Agreed - people had overboost issues with the 8.1 maps. Try the latest 9 maps if you can! :driving:


9 logs for me look OK from what I can tell:

https://datazap.me/u/ctgabz/9stg2?log=0&data=3-23
and
https://datazap.me/u/ctgabz/9stg2b?log=0&data=3-23

Those logs look really good. The boost control is a lot better in version 9. Also you have no timing correction at 18PSI which is great, what fuel are you using?

I'm curious to see how the V9 maps handle a DCT shift. Try getting another log like those above but keep on it for a few seconds into 4th gear.

I just release a couple of new tables over an another forum that relate to boost control. I've been using them for a while and they allow direct manipulation of the boost target which means in the future MHD maps Wedge can smooth out that initial lull in the boost target and probably increase the stage 2+ maps to target an extra 0.5PSI.
 
R.E92 said:
Try getting another log like those above but keep on it for a few seconds into 4th gear.

3rd into 4th and a little bit of 5th (run out of clear road): https://datazap.me/u/ctgabz/9stg2dct?log=0&data=3-5-23

Feels good but not sure if logs are ok. What variables do you usually look for? I see a bit of timing correction at Cyl 4 this time.

Fuel is Shell V Power 99 Ron (E5)
 
Gabz said:
R.E92 said:
Try getting another log like those above but keep on it for a few seconds into 4th gear.

3rd into 4th and a little bit of 5th (run out of clear road): https://datazap.me/u/ctgabz/9stg2dct?log=0&data=3-5-23

Feels good but not sure if logs are ok. What variables do you usually look for? I see a bit of timing correction at Cyl 4 this time.

Fuel is Shell V Power 99 Ron (E5)

One small timing correction during a run like that is fine, you'd see those sorts of corrections on the standard map. One or two corrections at -3 are nothing to worry about. More than that might indicate a lack of octane and any -6 or below ones are something that needs addressing.

Most of the channels are considered. Rail pressure should be above 1700 ideally but isn't a concern until below 1500. Fuel trims should be low as possible, below +/- 10 is good.
The torque limit active is important for us DCT users. A value of 1 in that field indicates traction control which is fine but a value of 4 would be a problem with the tune. There's a load of other values which indicate scenarios like rev-matching for downshifts which are also fine but obviously you don't want to see anything other than a 1 during a pull like that.

Timing is quite important. Since the OTS maps aren't perfect you'll see that you have a couple of scenarios where the timing value drops but there are no corrections logged. This is because the engine is reducing timing due to the boost target being exceeded.

Your logs look great though. If you put that on the dyno I'd expect about 420bhp. Have you ever tried measuring performance with the likes of a GPS timer like Dragy or a VBOX? They tend to be more representative of real world performance than a dyno.

Also out of interest where does your oil temp gauge sit when warmed up? I've noticed in this cold weather I'm only at 98C even after a couple of hours of driving.
 
I use in Finland MHD Stage 2+ E85 software. Dyno result 460hv :thumbsup:
100-200km/h 9s Dragy measurement.
62-124 miles 9s.
 
Miyli said:
I use in Finland MHD Stage 2+ E85 software. Dyno result 460hv :thumbsup:
100-200km/h 9s Dragy measurement.
62-124 miles 9s.

9s is impressive. I haven't timed mine since I installed catless downpipes, when it stops raining here I'll see what times I can put down.

I don't have access to E85 so I'm expecting something around 9.2s for 62-124. I managed 9.44 last time and 11.0 in for 60-130mph but I don't have the balls to hit 130 when it's cold and wet :P

Who does your tune? I'd imagine you're using tmap scaling to go above 18.5PSI.
 
Slight thread hijack: I'd like to get some advice on my MHD logs (I've uploaded to datazap.me) but not sure if it's worth starting a new thread; not sure if most members would be interested or not. Suppose there's only one way to find out.
 
enzed4 said:
Slight thread hijack: I'd like to get some advice on my MHD logs (I've uploaded to datazap.me) but not sure if it's worth starting a new thread; not sure if most members would be interested or not. Suppose there's only one way to find out.

You could start a dedicated MHD log review thread and I'll take a look. Would be useful for other members to see a collection of other logs in one place.
 
R.E92 said:
enzed4 said:
Slight thread hijack: I'd like to get some advice on my MHD logs (I've uploaded to datazap.me) but not sure if it's worth starting a new thread; not sure if most members would be interested or not. Suppose there's only one way to find out.

You could start a dedicated MHD log review thread and I'll take a look. Would be useful for other members to see a collection of other logs in one place.
Cheers, will do.
 
R.E92 said:
Most of the channels are considered. Rail pressure should be above 1700 ideally but isn't a concern until below 1500. Fuel trims should be low as possible, below +/- 10 is good.
The torque limit active is important for us DCT users. A value of 1 in that field indicates traction control which is fine but a value of 4 would be a problem with the tune. There's a load of other values which indicate scenarios like rev-matching for downshifts which are also fine but obviously you don't want to see anything other than a 1 during a pull like that.

Timing is quite important. Since the OTS maps aren't perfect you'll see that you have a couple of scenarios where the timing value drops but there are no corrections logged. This is because the engine is reducing timing due to the boost target being exceeded.

Your logs look great though. If you put that on the dyno I'd expect about 420bhp. Have you ever tried measuring performance with the likes of a GPS timer like Dragy or a VBOX? They tend to be more representative of real world performance than a dyno.

Also out of interest where does your oil temp gauge sit when warmed up? I've noticed in this cold weather I'm only at 98C even after a couple of hours of driving.

This is all really useful - thanks for posting! Worth posting in the logs thread perhaps? With regards to oil temp, it really depends on where I'm driving - in town it can go up to 120C if I fool around, but during normal / mixed driving it usually sits 100C if I recall correctly.

I'm looking to Dyno the car in the coming weeks, will make sure to post the results here / in logs thread.

My friend has a stage 2 (decat) E92 M3 DCT which I'm hoping my Z4 would pull on. Wonder if it's strong enough for that.
 
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