E89 Market watch
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North West Surrey
Kugaman1 said:
Maybe, but it could all be down to supply and demand.
I mean if their systems are as market sensitive as airline tickets or hotel rooms it may just be that they have one or two like yours in stock already, but don't have one like "hillwalkers" - and might even have customers waiting for one like his.
It does seem odd as they're the same model, but then if you wanted white I doubt you'd even consider red - or vice versa!
Give it a week or so and you usually get a better offer anyway.
Mr Tidy said:Kugaman1 said:
Maybe, but it could all be down to supply and demand.
I mean if their systems are as market sensitive as airline tickets or hotel rooms it may just be that they have one or two like yours in stock already, but don't have one like "hillwalkers" - and might even have customers waiting for one like his.
It does seem odd as they're the same model, but then if you wanted white I doubt you'd even consider red - or vice versa!
Give it a week or so and you usually get a better offer anyway.
WBAC are wholly owned by British Car Auctions, and all their cars go directly to auction under the name UKCGR. The prices they offer are tied to the auction data they hold (so accurate in terms of what cars are actually selling for at auction). It's interesting to compare the prices they buy cars in at compared to what they actually sell for (I've done this), and they make a decent margin (anywhere between £400-800+ from the cars I tracked). For British Car Auctions, this a great business model and it feeds a lot of cars into their auctions; it's also pretty rare to make such a big margin on a wholesale model.
I'm looking for a 2009 E89 and I've seen some pretty cheap ones on auto trader in the last month, I just need to jump in!
Mr Tidy said:Lovely looking car, especially in that colour combination.
Thats the very same colour combination I wanted when I bought mine at the end of the E89 production run!
BMW wouldn't / couldn't accept or process my order however a dealer was more than happy to say they would, but thats another story.
Anyone like to hazard a guess as to why this is still up for sale?
http://avoncarsales.co.uk/vehicle/name/bmw-z4-sdrive35is/
It's been up since January, and is an absolute dream spec to me. Planning to go view it tomorrow, but a bit worried it's been sat there all this time surely somethings amiss? Can anyone get the VIN for me?
http://avoncarsales.co.uk/vehicle/name/bmw-z4-sdrive35is/
It's been up since January, and is an absolute dream spec to me. Planning to go view it tomorrow, but a bit worried it's been sat there all this time surely somethings amiss? Can anyone get the VIN for me?
I guess it's a lot of money for a 3 1/2 year old car, in a climate where a lot of people are unsure of where the country's going. Also looking at cars a little older you stand to lose 50% of its value over the next 3 years or so, so I guess the number of people who may be interested in the car are quite low. Just my thoughts but as you say it's a lovely looking car.
While I don't disagree it is a lot of money for a car, it's not overpriced in the market imo. I've considered the 981 Boxster and the TTS and they're both more expensive, and tbh not massively better. I love the Boxster but couldn't afford an S and finding one which isn't flimper spec is a nightmare. So in context, to me it seems a fair price.Zoomer said:
ronk said:
I've pretty much already decided on it, in the E89 family at least. I loved my E86 Coupe, but want an auto next and the 28i although it has the brilliant 8ZF doesn't give to much excitement imo. I want 6 cylinders again and I want some soul
.I will go and have a look tomorrow, and see what man maths I can do!
Chris1712 said:While I don't disagree it is a lot of money for a car, it's not overpriced in the market imo. I've considered the 981 Boxster and the TTS and they're both more expensive, and tbh not massively better. I love the Boxster but couldn't afford an S and finding one which isn't flimper spec is a nightmare. So in context, to me it seems a fair price.Zoomer said:
ronk said:
I've pretty much already decided on it, in the E89 family at least. I loved my E86 Coupe, but want an auto next and the 28i although it has the brilliant 8ZF doesn't give to much excitement imo. I want 6 cylinders again and I want some soul
I will go and have a look tomorrow, and see what man maths I can do!
Don't get me wrong as I am not slating it, but for some reason Porsches hold onto their value and as previously said it's quite a bit of money for its age . I like the idea of one myself but as my dad used to say to me you have more potential to lose money the more the car costs in the first place, which goes for any car.
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I have seen this car on Auto trader too, recently reduced from 24k I think.
What would the resale be on this in 3 years time then?
I know diesels are not favourable, but petrol cars are fine until electric is mainstream.
I am looking to upgrade my 2012 20i next year around this time, looking for a 35i or is, but I don’t want to lose 12K on one!
This car isalready around 40/45% of its MSRP
What would the resale be on this in 3 years time then?
I know diesels are not favourable, but petrol cars are fine until electric is mainstream.
I am looking to upgrade my 2012 20i next year around this time, looking for a 35i or is, but I don’t want to lose 12K on one!
This car isalready around 40/45% of its MSRP
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When I was bitten by the deadly venomous Zed Bug and went in search of the holy grail I learnt a great deal about buying a BMW. Even though I had previously owned an M5, M3 Convertible and an X5 4.4 Sport they were all purchased brand new from BMW. Their simple rule is that approved used BMW's for sale are usually current or recent models and they are reluctant to retail models that are no longer in production ie, THE ZED.
This fact although a pain can work in our favour as it did for me. Time and time again we see posts on here from members wanting to know what accessories are fitted to their car. The myriad of models and standard equipment coupled with optional extras either factory or retro fitted is bewildering. Only BMW can tell you the full spec of your car as it was when it left the factory and therefore the listed equipment on any BMW from advertisements placed by non BMW dealers is at best as factual as Button Moon?
The Red 35is advertised in the link above from Avon Car Sales isn't even a complete equipment list for a standard zed let alone a 35is but it does tell you it has safety belts? tinted windows? but strangely enough no mention of Sat Nav, Paddle Shift, DCT Gearbox......etc etc etc. The car is quite a nice car but for me the mileage is just a little too high to command that price. I bought mine six months ago and paid £27,995 for it with 18,000 miles on the clock. Having owned and driven the car for six months I consider myself fortunate to have found my zed and at the price it was a bargain.
Anyway don't be afraid of buying from non BMW dealers which is where most of the zeds are found but check the dealership you buy from and remember your choice is the only one that matters. If you are happy and love the car then buy it. Everybody in the world wants you to believe that they got a fantastic deal when they changed their car and got £3000 over book price when they part exchanged their 63 reg fiat uno for an M4 Convertible and because it was a Tuesday the Salesman knocked £15000 off the price of the M4 but in the real world it doesn't happen. 
This fact although a pain can work in our favour as it did for me. Time and time again we see posts on here from members wanting to know what accessories are fitted to their car. The myriad of models and standard equipment coupled with optional extras either factory or retro fitted is bewildering. Only BMW can tell you the full spec of your car as it was when it left the factory and therefore the listed equipment on any BMW from advertisements placed by non BMW dealers is at best as factual as Button Moon?
The Red 35is advertised in the link above from Avon Car Sales isn't even a complete equipment list for a standard zed let alone a 35is but it does tell you it has safety belts? tinted windows? but strangely enough no mention of Sat Nav, Paddle Shift, DCT Gearbox......etc etc etc. The car is quite a nice car but for me the mileage is just a little too high to command that price. I bought mine six months ago and paid £27,995 for it with 18,000 miles on the clock. Having owned and driven the car for six months I consider myself fortunate to have found my zed and at the price it was a bargain.
Anyway don't be afraid of buying from non BMW dealers which is where most of the zeds are found but check the dealership you buy from and remember your choice is the only one that matters. If you are happy and love the car then buy it. Everybody in the world wants you to believe that they got a fantastic deal when they changed their car and got £3000 over book price when they part exchanged their 63 reg fiat uno for an M4 Convertible and because it was a Tuesday the Salesman knocked £15000 off the price of the M4 but in the real world it doesn't happen.
Actually once you get the VIN details you can check it online on a site like "vinchecker" - but that isn't always the whole story, as I found out with my E86!
It wasn't built with them, but it has been retro-fitted with rear parking sensors, cruise control and OEM cup-holders.
The crucial first step for me is to find out what features the model you are looking for came with as standard, then to work out which options are "must haves" and which are "would likes" - then see what cars for sale have fitted.
It's part of the journey towards the great destination of Z4 ownership!
It wasn't built with them, but it has been retro-fitted with rear parking sensors, cruise control and OEM cup-holders.
The crucial first step for me is to find out what features the model you are looking for came with as standard, then to work out which options are "must haves" and which are "would likes" - then see what cars for sale have fitted.
It's part of the journey towards the great destination of Z4 ownership!
sad_old_man said:When I was bitten by the deadly venomous Zed Bug and went in search of the holy grail I learnt a great deal about buying a BMW. Even though I had previously owned an M5, M3 Convertible and an X5 4.4 Sport they were all purchased brand new from BMW. Their simple rule is that approved used BMW's for sale are usually current or recent models and they are reluctant to retail models that are no longer in production ie, THE ZED.
This fact although a pain can work in our favour as it did for me. Time and time again we see posts on here from members wanting to know what accessories are fitted to their car. The myriad of models and standard equipment coupled with optional extras either factory or retro fitted is bewildering. Only BMW can tell you the full spec of your car as it was when it left the factory and therefore the listed equipment on any BMW from advertisements placed by non BMW dealers is at best as factual as Button Moon?
The Red 35is advertised in the link above from Avon Car Sales isn't even a complete equipment list for a standard zed let alone a 35is but it does tell you it has safety belts? tinted windows? but strangely enough no mention of Sat Nav, Paddle Shift, DCT Gearbox......etc etc etc. The car is quite a nice car but for me the mileage is just a little too high to command that price. I bought mine six months ago and paid £27,995 for it with 18,000 miles on the clock. Having owned and driven the car for six months I consider myself fortunate to have found my zed and at the price it was a bargain.
Anyway don't be afraid of buying from non BMW dealers which is where most of the zeds are found but check the dealership you buy from and remember your choice is the only one that matters. If you are happy and love the car then buy it. Everybody in the world wants you to believe that they got a fantastic deal when they changed their car and got £3000 over book price when they part exchanged their 63 reg fiat uno for an M4 Convertible and because it was a Tuesday the Salesman knocked £15000 off the price of the M4 but in the real world it doesn't happen.
As above, I got the VIN and did a lookup. To be fair with most advertised cars you can tell the options from photos. Some tricks I've always used:
Xenons? Look at the light switch cluster for an adjustment dial, no dial must mean xenons. ALso look for the washer jet covers on the front bumper
Heated Seats you can see the buttons or not on the centre console
Cruise Control is quite often obstructed because of the weird stalk but you can normally see an edge or something in one picture
Wind Deflector is usually visible
Pro Nav visible
The 35iS comes with lots of goodies as standard aswell.
To find the VIN, get a quote here https://www.bmw-warranty.co.uk/Start. If that doesn't work create an account on a dealers website and try to book a service, it will ask your reg number and reveal the VIN
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