E89 Launch Control

mcbeee

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 Chestermere, Alberta
I saw a video on Youtube of a driver launching an E89. He filmed the dash panel and It looked like he started in M2 and hit around 4500rpm releasing the brake. As I have never had a car with "launch control" before I am wondering if starting in M2 (second gear) is better , worse or doesn't really matter.??

Comments please.....
 
With around 380bhp of the remapped 35i - A 2nd gear launch is...

Better for...
Less, easier to manage wheelspin
No Gear changes till ~60mph

Worse for...
The poor clutch, gearbox and propshaft!

Regularly did this with my old 200bhp/300lbft FWD diesel hatch and it went like a rocket. Could knock ~0.4s off a standing quarter mile. A few lauches like this though, and something will break, i guarantee it!

I really wouldnt bother; if the clutch does let go, itll likely be apparent from the heat scorching of the flywheel that you abused it voiding warranties along the way :(
 
I wouldn't try a 2nd gear start unless I knew what I was doing and as I'm not a drag racer I probably wouldn't try a Launch more than once or twice (just to see what it is like). It can't be good for the longevity of the drive train :thumbsdown: I haven't got it remapped yet but I will get the extra 85 hp from Dinan as soon as it's available :thumbsup: but still I would be a little nervous about dumping that much torque and HP into the DCT in launch mode.
 
I've been a passenger in my mates Audi A3 when he demonstrated the launch control. Only the 2.0T 200bhp, quattro model with the dual-clutch gearbox, but it still felt pretty brutal. Car went off the line with all 4 wheels slippinh slightly (it was wet) but it's not something I'd do to my own car if it was mine. Luckily for him his is a company car with them paying all the costs including tyres...
 
I suppose that the launch control is just a "computerized control" equivalent of dumping the clutch at high revs and I was never a real fan of that but if they put it in the car it must be reasonably safe. I think it might be a way of reducing warranty costs for themselves from the drivers that drag-race(on private roads) a lot and wreck stuff. Maybe? Maybe not? either way I'll tread carefully with that part of the car.
 
I think the computer only allows you to do it after the car has initially done a certain number of miles (is it 1500 ?) and you can't do one launch control after another after another... Agree though, I would probably try it once to see what it was like and that would be it!
 
If I remember right, Lotus offer launch control on one of their Elise or Exige models, but if you actually use it then it voids the warranty on the drivetrain. Sounds utterly crazy but I remember reading the article on the PH site. I'll see if I can track it down...

I'm sure there's some exclusion on the warranty of the Nissan GTR too about launch control.

Edit: I remembered correctly - what a stupid stupid idea! Why build something into the car if it's going to screw your drivetrain warranty if you use it :roll:

http://www.pistonheads.com/lotus/default.asp?storyId=20523

The latest version of the Lotus Exige Cup 260 has been revealed, boasting a stiffer chassis, lower weight and a new launch and traction control system.

The most extreme Exige shaves 12kgs from the weight of the Exige S with extensive use of carbon in the roof panel, FIA/HANS-compliant seats, tailgate, centre tunnel, front splitter, side air intake ducts and a rear spoiler.

Use of lightweight components saves another 22kgs, says Lotus, listing a lightweight motorsport battery, ultralight racing wheels (thought to be the lightest 'OE' wheels in the world at 5.65kgs front, and 7.75kgs rear), a lightweight flywheel, a composite bulkhead panel to replace the rear window and alloy supercharger U-bend pipes.

Removing other non-essential components and equipment such as the interior and boot carpets, front mudflaps, battery cover, interior mirror, sun visors, rear tailgate gas strut, results in a further weight saving of 4kg, the company claims.

In total, the weight reduction measures bring the Exige Cup 260 in at 890kgs, giving it a lively power to weight ratio of 288hp per tonne thanks to its 257hp supercharged Toyota engine. Lotus says the car will reach 60mph in 4 seconds, 100mph in 9.9 seconds and a maximum of 152mph.

Handling has also been upgraded thanks to a new rear diffuser evolution that improves lateral stiffness in the rear sub-frame by 30 per cent, and the adoption of Ohlins two-way adjustable dampers.

Although Lotus sells Exige Cup models for road use, the car's primary focus has always been the track, where the new launch and traction control system should come into its own. Launch control allows you to dial up the required revs then sidestep the clutch for quick getaways, while the traction control can be adjusted on the move to provide anything from an 'optimised' seven per cent tyre slip, to being dialled out altogether. A message display in the new instrument pack tells you what setting you are driving on.

Like Nissan, which was roundly criticised for offering a launch control system on the GT-R that voided the warranty if used, Lotus is taking a similar path, saying: "If the launch control facility is utilised, the warranty on related powertrain components is void."
 
So the only advantage is the perfect amount of tire slip, and perfect super fast red-line shifts.

IMO, I would do it, just to say I can and to feel what it was like. However not if it voided any warranty, just put it in sport, give it some gas just to get the car under pressure and let go of the brake. Put traction in the second mode to get some wheel slippage. But honestly if you're not going for a time, using launch control isn't going to make the difference. yeah, you'd be "faster" but that's not why we bought bimmers. :poke:
 
mcbeee said:
I saw a video on Youtube of a driver launching an E89. He filmed the dash panel and It looked like he started in M2 and hit around 4500rpm releasing the brake. As I have never had a car with "launch control" before I am wondering if starting in M2 (second gear) is better , worse or doesn't really matter.??

Comments please.....

Why........? :poke:
 
Same reason I did a smokeshow with my old tires on the M3, because I could....just once, to see what it's like. I prefer to "drive" the car not "Drag" it. I'm too old for that sh*t and I don't like chewing up tires and going nowhere. :driving:
 
I hope he means "injection" , otherwise I'm ordering one , it must be the OO7 version that's not available anywhere else.


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