E86 Coupe values
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North West Surrey
I suppose it's the nearest thing to a new E86 you're going to find, but it's still approaching 20 years old so some rubber and plastic parts are still going to need replacing - probably including the tyres.
The problem is if you use it the value will plummet as mileage goes up, and if you don't use it you've bought an ornament!
The problem is if you use it the value will plummet as mileage goes up, and if you don't use it you've bought an ornament!
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I seriously don't think anyone pays £24k plus for a 9k mile E86 to actually use.
Long term investment to be squirreled away. Motoring equivalent of a hedge fund.
Might take a while to be a good investment, though.
Might take a very long time!
The M models are usually the first to go up in value, and they aren't yet.
What’s a good investment? I think a 9k E86 for £24k is quite a safe place to put your money actually. It’s not going to soar in value, but the government can’t tax it if you’re not using it.
When it comes to cars, it's very difficult to know. In fact it's impossible; hence the 'hedge fund' comment.
If I had known 'fast Fords' from the 80s were going to do what they have, I would have garaged my mint, low mileage mk3 RS Turbo Escort in 1989 for 20 years. But I didn't have a clue (as no-one did back then).
That's like some of my e34 M5 owning friends, who are claiming they're classic car experts because they 'made' £10k when they sold their cars.
They worked that out because they bought it for £15k and 10 years later sold it for £25k...conveniently forgetting the £20k+ of spend in those years with inspections, engine rebuilds, bodywork/rust repairs, etc. for not a lot of miles covered.
As with my Z4MC, I was one of the very few who actually used/drove the car more than 5,000 miles a year.
These comments have always intrigued me, so I did a little googling... based on the responses (which could be wrong of course)
- there were 14 standard exterior colours and 10–12 primary interior upholstery options, so lets say a theoretical 14x10 = 140 colour combinations, assuming any combination could be ordered
- there are 200–250 licensed E86s on the road, with another 30–50 registered as SORN
So on average there are less than 2 roadworthy E86 left of any interior/exterior combo.
If you want to find definitive numbers on E86 colour combinations here's a link to a database a forum member compiled.
https://tonyz4c.z28.web.core.windows.net/index30si.html
https://tonyz4c.z28.web.core.windows.net/index30si.html
That's assuming all combinations were ordered in equal numbers. They won't have been.
So a purely 'mathematical mean average' means nothing.
What intrigues me is when people (generally when selling) quote 'rarity numbers' like they are some kind of a bonus and then ask more money for them. Rare colours are rare for a reason; hardly anyone ordered them. Generally because the colours were horrible. Then to make them rarer, BMW realised some colours weren't selling so deleted them.
Sepang Bronze is a case in point. They are as rare as rocking horse s**t because they are brown and the vast majority didn't want a new brown Z4. Yet they seem to be the 'holy grail' of colours 20 years later.
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That’s simply not correct. If you are quoting the Howmanyleft figures, there are e86s in a number of categories. There are actually about 1900 e86s remaining in the UK.
Thanks for the info.
I was surprised at how few cars were left on the road, hence my comment about the unknown accuracy. I doesn't "feel" like they are that rare.
Zedebee's number seems a more likely number. Where does it come from Zedebee?
I have always made me smile with the adverts enthuse about a "rare" colour combination - As Pondy suggests, it does indeed suggest it was unpopular, hardly a selling point. It makes sense for somethings - V8 engined car with manual gearbox - rare and for the enthusiast. Odd colour combo, less so.
Having that said that, the concept "So a purely 'mathematical mean average' means nothing." I have to differ; if nothing else, it allows an easy metric to see that was popular and not.
Anyway - I have red seats, which I just think is the business.
I was surprised at how few cars were left on the road, hence my comment about the unknown accuracy. I doesn't "feel" like they are that rare.
Zedebee's number seems a more likely number. Where does it come from Zedebee?
I have always made me smile with the adverts enthuse about a "rare" colour combination - As Pondy suggests, it does indeed suggest it was unpopular, hardly a selling point. It makes sense for somethings - V8 engined car with manual gearbox - rare and for the enthusiast. Odd colour combo, less so.
Having that said that, the concept "So a purely 'mathematical mean average' means nothing." I have to differ; if nothing else, it allows an easy metric to see that was popular and not.
Anyway - I have red seats, which I just think is the business.
At least they took 100 images to justify the markup
Some lovely metal on their website and interesting that they value it at £35k - could this be the year the E86 prices start the upwards trajectory everyone's been threatening
You might want to reconsider your listing price
WTF! 
I went to that dealer last year with a forum member who bought a Carbon Black MC from them for about 60% of that price. Admittedly it had done more miles (not leggy by any means though) but that meant it wouldn't matter if it did a few more!
That price is a bit more than it cost new in 2006 - I wonder how long it will take them to sell it?
I went to that dealer last year with a forum member who bought a Carbon Black MC from them for about 60% of that price. Admittedly it had done more miles (not leggy by any means though) but that meant it wouldn't matter if it did a few more!
That price is a bit more than it cost new in 2006 - I wonder how long it will take them to sell it?
Just thinking the same mateySome lovely metal on their website and interesting that they value it at £35k - could this be the year the E86 prices start the upwards trajectory everyone's been threatening
You might want to reconsider your listing price