abzthemanc said:
If that’s above your budget how does this one sit? Very similar car on the face of it??
https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=130525
Not too far by train to Edinburgh from you?
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If that’s above your budget how does this one sit? Very similar car on the face of it??
https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=130525
Not too far by train to Edinburgh from you?
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Argyll Andy said:
Doesn't look bad at all that. Edinburgh is about 3-3.5 hours on the train... certainly doable but a bit of a mission right now, 4 yo and 1 yo keeping me busy!
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At the risk of sounding like an utter noob, I havent bought a 2nd hand car privately before, so whats the crack with test drives? I would assume anyone would want even a very basic test drive up the road to ensure all is in order but obviously you wouldn't want to let just any tom dick or harry drive your car.. how does it work with private sales? What do the good folk on here typically do?
I'm Happy to pay for a cover note etc, as my own insurance would cover me TP only. A test ride as an alternative wouldn't be the worst thing either.
I'm Happy to pay for a cover note etc, as my own insurance would cover me TP only. A test ride as an alternative wouldn't be the worst thing either.
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Thoughts on this example?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-E85-3-0i-/265244863373?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-E85-3-0i-/265244863373?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
abzthemanc said:
I’d have to say that I would be concerned in person it’ll look like a patchwork quilt with that many different panels painted individually and I already know the passenger door colour would p!ss me off being so different. I don’t even know if the pre/post facelifts used the same colour.
The other thing I noticed is it says it’s had new headlights, they don’t look like a matching pair from the picture. The Orange hockey stick on the passenger side looks more faded/not as bright as the drivers side.
Up to you if can live with these things or if you’re happy to rectify any issues if they’re are like above when you stand in front of it
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abzthemanc said:
I think it all depends on how it feels on the day! When buyer and seller meet they both get to assess each other and decide from there.
The seller of my 1st E86 wasn't keen to let me drive it, but relented in the end. When I sold it the buyer didn't ask to drive it but I did drive him over 10 miles on different roads in it.
When I bought my 2nd Coupe I turned up in a BMW E46 325ti Compact and the seller decided to let me drive it on DOC cover with the understanding that if I bent it I'd bought it!
When I sold it I decided both potential buyers looked sensible enough to let them drive it with DOC cover, and the 2nd one bought it! He got 1-day cover to take it home to Wales before he left.
I looked at 2 MCs before I bought the 3rd. First let me drive it on DOC, but not far as it was SORN'd and there were cameras! 2nd was a trader so I got 20 minutes or so on my own and 3rd let me drive 4 or 5 miles with the seller in the passenger seat but then he was keen to sell.
I'm not sure I'd want anyone to drive my MC unless I was holding the cash or they had evidence of Comprehensive cover, but as it's a keeper I hope I never have to make that call.
For cheaper cars I'm not so bothered. I let the buyer of my E46 325ti drive it on DOC cover, and the buyer of it's replacement E91 325i. The previous owner of the 325i let me do the same when I bought it, as did the seller of my current E90 330i.
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Argyll Andy said:abzthemanc said:
I’d have to say that I would be concerned in person it’ll look like a patchwork quilt with that many different panels painted individually and I already know the passenger door colour would p!ss me off being so different. I don’t even know if the pre/post facelifts used the same colour.
The other thing I noticed is it says it’s had new headlights, they don’t look like a matching pair from the picture. The Orange hockey stick on the passenger side looks more faded/not as bright as the drivers side.
Up to you if can live with these things or if you’re happy to rectify any issues if they’re are like above when you stand in front of it
Appreciate the Eagle eyed observations!
The door colour matching is my main concern.. I reckon I could live with the bumpers if to a certain degree of difference and I hadn't really noticed the headlight difference till you mentioned it (great spot). Spoke to seller and he said there been some paint bubbling /rust on the door hence the swap.
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Mr Tidy said:
That all makes good sense. I'll only be wanting to drive a car that I'm genuinely keen on, and I do have Doc third party cover so hopefully it just works out!
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So finally biting the bullet, if all is as expected and no discrepancies, I shall be purchasing a Z4 this Sunday!
Feels a bit strange buying in this day and age with a large wad of cash, would have much preferred a bank transfer but sellers request. Anything to watch out for other than usual common sense when holding a large sum of money?
Do you guys get a receipt of sorts when purchasing a car privately?
Feels a bit strange buying in this day and age with a large wad of cash, would have much preferred a bank transfer but sellers request. Anything to watch out for other than usual common sense when holding a large sum of money?
Do you guys get a receipt of sorts when purchasing a car privately?
abzthemanc said:
Not sure I'd be overly happy carrying a wad of cash about but long as it's not a crazy amount it's ok I guess. Probably worried about bank transfer not going through immediately which has been known.
Yup get a receipt. Can print out a template from various places but blank bit of paper hand written will be fine. In essence, you want vehicle reg, VIN, make / model, mileage, name address of buyer / seller and declaration the amount of money received in full for purchase of said vehicle. Both sign at the bottom, job done. Just copy the info from the V5.
You don't have to of course, but remember V5 isn't proof of ownership and without a receipt there is technically no proof you own the car should a problem arise.
Well done, seller obviously wants cash but perhaps ask if you can pay £500 or similar electronically so if on the off chance anything did arise you’ve a trail where/who you paid the money too.
As already mentioned, a Receipt etc are essential listing as many details as possible, maybe ask for sight of passport/driving license to match name on V5.seller shouldn’t have any objections as it’s your check resultant on his insistence on cash.
Don’t forget the photos
As already mentioned, a Receipt etc are essential listing as many details as possible, maybe ask for sight of passport/driving license to match name on V5.seller shouldn’t have any objections as it’s your check resultant on his insistence on cash.
Don’t forget the photos
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AndyBeech said:
Cheers! It's not mega bucks, it's under 5k but still.. I've carried a lot more but usually for banking/wholesale purchasing which is a lot more comfortable.
And will download a receipt template, sounds exactly like what I was thinking
I use a receipt like this when buying or selling:
https://www.theaa.com/car-buying/buyers-sellers-contracts
Good luck and I'm sure you'll enjoy the car.
https://www.theaa.com/car-buying/buyers-sellers-contracts
Good luck and I'm sure you'll enjoy the car.
Ian J said:
100% this - my brother in law is plod and he had someone lose an Evoque that was stolen, the guy he bought from came down from London saying he was meeting his girlfriend in Bristol so they met at Cribbs Causeway as it was on the way, guy paid £12k in cash and thought he had a bargin until the car came up as stolen when he tried to MOT the bloody thing.
He bought it back off the insurance company eventually but he had no recourse to get his money back, buyer beware
Ole gits rule said:
That’s part of the reason I suggested paying a small amount electronically, if something went wrong the bank payment gives plod a starting point
Argyll Andy said:Ole gits rule said:
That’s part of the reason I suggested paying a small amount electronically, if something went wrong the bank payment gives plod a starting point
I would not pay cash these days or even want to take it for a large transaction, bank transfer is pretty much instant these days
When I was test driving private Zs in London I used hourly fully comp insurance through the Cuvva app - typically was around £15 a pop and only takes a few seconds to launch a policy after taking a couple of photos. I didn’t have a DOC policy at the time, but would probably still do the same today to give the seller peace of mind as much as anything.
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Cheers all for the sage advice. Yeah certainly intend to purchase car from his home otherwise the alarm bells are gonna be ringing and il be making a swift exit.