E85/E86 Bubble....
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E86 Si have followed a predictable cycle in the 8 - 9 yrs ive watched the market , similar with Si E85 & its not hard to notice that right now ask prices are at a peak , from where they will only be going one way :wink: whether that is a matter of months is hard to say , my guess is they will stay strong another few months before heading down as we approach Sept - Oct -Nov & prices in Jan - Feb 2022 won't resemble prices from Jan - Feb 2021 , jmo of course , they may well continue the rise & reach ///M levels :roll:
I think it's more of the normal fluctuation in prices experienced at this time of year.
If anything I fully expect the e85 and e86 si prices to improve upwards for the seller. The e89 prices will plummet for the majority of models with slower depreciation on whatever the top end e89 was.
G29? Give it 5 years and it'll be given away for free with new glasses from Specsavers!
If anything I fully expect the e85 and e86 si prices to improve upwards for the seller. The e89 prices will plummet for the majority of models with slower depreciation on whatever the top end e89 was.
G29? Give it 5 years and it'll be given away for free with new glasses from Specsavers!
I'm not sure if it will burst. I was looking at the Porsche 928S4 five or six years ago. You could easily get a decent one for £5k. Now you are lucky to get a decent one for £20k.
Similar story with Ferrari 355 - really wish I had bought one 10 years ago.
Z4 E85 are great looking fun classics. I think they will do well.
Similar story with Ferrari 355 - really wish I had bought one 10 years ago.
Z4 E85 are great looking fun classics. I think they will do well.
I was going to post on this very subject and saw this.
Current prices are being driven by lower than normal supply, with dealers asking silly money for the better examples, which is pushing prices of average / high miles examples higher. Cars that were around £6k are now over £8k.
I’m sure some of you will have seen recent private sale on AT of a one owner low miles 56 plate E86 in Monaco Blue, in Wilmslow. The car was priced at £9200 and within an hour a dealer had bought it - the car has now appeared on AT at over £15k. Dealers are in the business to make money, but.........
There is also an average looking E85 3.0si at £11500, I think with no heated seats.
I can only see prices going one way, once restrictions are lifted. That’s not just for E86 / E86, but most cars. I’m keeping a close watch on MK1 TT at present, and it’s amazing how seriously scruffy examples are being held up as future classics.
I can though see prices for Z4M starting to climb, as I think they’ve been steady for a while now.
Current prices are being driven by lower than normal supply, with dealers asking silly money for the better examples, which is pushing prices of average / high miles examples higher. Cars that were around £6k are now over £8k.
I’m sure some of you will have seen recent private sale on AT of a one owner low miles 56 plate E86 in Monaco Blue, in Wilmslow. The car was priced at £9200 and within an hour a dealer had bought it - the car has now appeared on AT at over £15k. Dealers are in the business to make money, but.........
There is also an average looking E85 3.0si at £11500, I think with no heated seats.
I can only see prices going one way, once restrictions are lifted. That’s not just for E86 / E86, but most cars. I’m keeping a close watch on MK1 TT at present, and it’s amazing how seriously scruffy examples are being held up as future classics.
I can though see prices for Z4M starting to climb, as I think they’ve been steady for a while now.
Can't see it lasting personally once we are out of the covid crisis, people with saved cash and nowt to spend it on has driven this I think, lots of people with money to burn and limited supply has pushed prices, I believe once this is over we'll see a return to a more settled market
mr.tourette said:
Totally agree , we may see another splurge post 2nd lockdown but many of these buyers may well be ticking boredom boxes & realise after a few months they aren't practical & they are at a age where things are failing & need a spend .
I wouldn't buy until at least November but if i owned one id be selling asap :wink:
North West Surrey
I bought my first Z4 in 2014 and as mr wilks says prices did seem to follow a predictable pattern, with the usual winter slump in Decmber 2019.
Which was great news when I bought my M, but not such good news when I was selling my 3.0Si just after Christmas. I got very little interest until I dropped the price to a silly level and sold it in February, and was very relieved I had sold it when lockdown happened in March. But then around May prices took off and still seem to be climbing based on current asking prices. :roll:
There is only one way they can go now and that's down, and I think they will once people get back to normal work and holiday routines as well as being able to go places for days out.
But as to whether that will be this year, 2022, or even later seems impossible to predict yet.
Which was great news when I bought my M, but not such good news when I was selling my 3.0Si just after Christmas. I got very little interest until I dropped the price to a silly level and sold it in February, and was very relieved I had sold it when lockdown happened in March. But then around May prices took off and still seem to be climbing based on current asking prices. :roll:
There is only one way they can go now and that's down, and I think they will once people get back to normal work and holiday routines as well as being able to go places for days out.
But as to whether that will be this year, 2022, or even later seems impossible to predict yet.
Danz4coupe
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I dunno....the 2 door E30 i sold about 6 years ago for £1800 is now worth more than my coupe.
Could go either way.
Could go either way.
mr wilks said:Zulu4 said:
Porsche 928s
Ferrari355
Z4 E85
Not quite the same are they
Ive watched them & bought/sold them in peak & trough cycles of 12-14 months , nothing to suggest this won't continue
I suppose you are right. They are not in the same class -
The Z4 is superior in every way:
It is better looking
Better designed
Better built
More reliable
Faster accelerating (than a 928)
More economical
Cheaper to run
Easier to repair
More practical
Less rusty
Safer
More affordable
More FUN
Funny old thing that Bmbardo mentions MK1 TT as I purchased a good one for £3500 as a run around with low miles. These will also start rising in value as I’ve been following the market, however there are so many poor examples around and prices are rock bottom at the moment.
I should have hung on to my 225 Coupe which I sold in 2014 for £2,200! Seriously though, it was a great car (design, engineering, packaging, amazing performance from 1.8l) but they were almost ubiquitous it the UK for a while.SiJar said:
The thing that will hold E86 prices up is their rarity. What I don’t understand is why E85 prices are so strong. Perhaps the market realises that whilst the E85 isn’t particularly rare, the 3.0Si (which some will see as a convertible E86 and therefore more desirable) is.