E85 3.0i vs E85 3.0si vs E89 3.0i

Hi,
sorry to post in here but was after some owners experience. I have a a 2003 E85 3.0. I was wondering if there was anyone who had owned this car and has since got a e89? I would be interested to hear what it is like? I get the impression from the road tests the e89 is more comfy but less sporty?
and it has a similar power for the 3.0 as the 3.0si?
all input welcome
thanks
 
No personal experience but the guy I bought my 3.0 si said he'd driven an E89 30i and it felt like a big downgrade power wise so was on the hunt for a 35i or is
 
The E89 is a far chunk heavier so you would expect some noticeable loss of pace which is bore out by road test 0-60 figures etc
 
Hi Sammy
I've had both a e85 and have just sold my e89 and loved them both. I had autos so can't comment on manuals. Both were exactly the same 6.1 0-60 so performance wise you can't split them. The 19inch run flats I had on the e89 made the ride terrible unless on smooth Tarmac but crucially the e89 handled itself amazingly around the twisties! Even better than the M135i I have now! It also has more room and all the modern extras you can wish for, it's a great car for sure.
But if your looking for just a weekend car then I really still think the e85 ticks all the boxes. Plus it won't depreciate as much as the e89 is doing! Trust me it was not easy selling the e89. If you do want one then perhaps now is the time to get yourself a bargain :D
 

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thanks for the replies...
I do wana go test driving but I drive my e85 like a fool sometimes and that's when I enjoy it, when empty roads and in the twisties.
I don't think I'd get away with that completely on a test drive.
interesting about the 135i as I would chase one but I can't do 4 seat convertibles.
Its for a daily driver. The thing is I do something wish for a bit more power in my 3.0i e85. I can't afford a 35i/is they are beyond my means.

thank you tho, some more food for thought.
 
sammysquid said:
thanks for the replies...
I do wana go test driving but I drive my e85 like a fool sometimes and that's when I enjoy it, when empty roads and in the twisties.
I don't think I'd get away with that completely on a test drive.
interesting about the 135i as I would chase one but I can't do 4 seat convertibles.
Its for a daily driver. The thing is I do something wish for a bit more power in my 3.0i e85. I can't afford a 35i/is they are beyond my means.

thank you tho, some more food for thought.

The 3.osi has aprox 30bhp more than the earlier 3litre cars & is lighter than the e89 to boot, cheapest way to more Z speed and they also seem to be slow depreciating beasts :thumbsup:
Rob
 
The E85 and the E89 are 2 completely different cars and it really all depends on what you want from a car.
We test drove a few E85s but felt the E89 suited us better, more comfort and a better interior.
Obviously the downside will be they cost more to begin with so you will lose more as the years go by.
 
see this is the problem. The E85 is not a proper sports car as the boxster or the elise but it certainly behaves in the corners and is fun.
In what way do you think the E89 is different? I know its heavier but then a previous poster says its really good in the corners? which I thought was useful?
 
sammysquid said:
see this is the problem. The E85 is not a proper sports car as the boxster or the elise but it certainly behaves in the corners and is fun.
In what way do you think the E89 is different? I know its heavier but then a previous poster says its really good in the corners? which I thought was useful?

Having owned two 987 Boxsters that statement is bollocks and it clearly sounds like your just repeating something you have read rather than having first hand experience. Yes the Boxster has better handling but to say a Z4 isn't a proper sports car compared to one is utter crap!
 
Where are you based Sammy ?
89s do feel very different from 85s but then they are :oops:
If Lancs i'm happy to take you out in the lanes to show you 200bhp in a E89 can be enjoyed just as much as a 3.0Si or 3.2///M :driving:
 
MACK said:
Having owned two 987 Boxsters that statement is bollocks and it clearly sounds like your just repeating something you have read rather than having first hand experience. Yes the Boxster has better handling but to say a Z4 isn't a proper sports car compared to one is utter crap!

Hey, I'm not trying to offend... just every time I hear someone mention a boxster they seem to say it is in its own league! people from here and in reviews say the Porsche is in its own class.
The reason I say the Z4 isn't a proper sports car is I guess I see it as a sports tourer, It is comfortable, I used mine daily all year round in every weather, I would assume that means there has been compromises along the way. I guess I mean I get there is a spectrum with the z4 less along the sporty way then the Porsche.

Thanks for the offer for the drive out. I am not a master who needs more power to show off my awesome driving skills. A large part of it is having had a big engine I've become a bit lazy, I like the torque of larger engines and engine not having to rev as much. I came from a turbo'd car that wasn't as fast but It felt more of an event as you waited for the car to spool up. I liked that the Zed just goes. I am unsure where to go to next on the car front and so the aim of this thread was an honest question of what people reckon, reviews and even a 30 mins test drive don't give you everything.
 
sammysquid said:
Hi,
sorry to post in here but was after some owners experience. I have a a 2003 E85 3.0. I was wondering if there was anyone who had owned this car and has since got a e89? I would be interested to hear what it is like? I get the impression from the road tests the e89 is more comfy but less sporty?
and it has a similar power for the 3.0 as the 3.0si?
all input welcome
thanks

Parkers quote 5.6 secs to 60 for a manual E89 30i and 5.5 secs for a manual E85 roadster so not a lot in it
254 bhp vs 261bhp
1415kg vs 1310 kg
 
Im currently selling my 3.0i roadster whilst it great id prefer a e89 I think I got done at santapod by a e89 28i he got 13.6 I got 14.7s so not slow at all e89 looks better too has all that adaptive suspension in sport mode no comparison I much prefer one
 
sammysquid said:
Hi,
sorry to post in here but was after some owners experience. I have a a 2003 E85 3.0. I was wondering if there was anyone who had owned this car and has since got a e89? I would be interested to hear what it is like? I get the impression from the road tests the e89 is more comfy but less sporty?
and it has a similar power for the 3.0 as the 3.0si?
all input welcome
thanks
I have a 3-0i roadster but it has been modified a little in that it is remapped, has a Drexler LSD, 330 brakes, MFSW etc and in April I bought a new E89 sDrive 35i and I must say that I am very happy with having made that decision but will definitely be keeping the E85!

The modified E85 is great fun to drive and with the LSD (ratio 4.08:1) has very fast acceleration and is definitely better handling than the 35i, but the E89 is a much better GT, is also quite fast but has all the modern refinements with regard to media, navigation, double clutch transmission, paddle sifting (that I love!), adaptive lighting etc, etc.

I guess you have to prioritise your desirers / requirements and choose accordingly!
[I'll be keeping both of mine as they both offer a lot, albeit in different circumstances.]
 
The E85 is no more of a 'sports tourer' than a Boxster Sammy, both cars will do the daily run and weekends away as easily as each other, it's just that the Boxster has better handling and has far superior steering feel, they are the better car IMHO (yes I have had one) but that's not your question.

If you like being 'spirited' at times then yes the E89 feels a bit heavier than the E85, however that's not to say it does'nt handle well, but it is different, enter say a 45-90 deg corner quickly and it will want to understeer, then you'll get weight transfer which swings the back out causing oversteer, but it's not dramatic, it hardly has you thinking 'whoa what the hell was that', it's subtle and tbh you're being a bit silly to get it to happen, you can't keep that pace up and not either crash or lose your licence, I've done it a couple of times just experimenting but it's not how I drive normally or even when having a fun blast, I've tried it, and I doubt I'll ever do it again, you can press on quickly without being daft and it will handle well, my 35is is the heaviest of the lot but, up to silly speeds it's fine and I doubt you'd find much difference to an E85 except the weight feel, and if you have the adaptive then you can stiffen and soften it as desired, that really does make a difference. The steering feel of the E89 is it's biggest let down, not the handling, it does feel a bit dead, but then I found that in my E85 si as well, though admittedly it was on the dreadful run flats, my current 19" rims on run flats feel better and more comfy than the si's 18" rims with run flats. Tbh my old SW20 MR2 feels a lot better in steering feel and has crisper turn in than the E89 and E85. If you want nimble then there are much better cars available than either. I really don't think there's that much between the two handling wise, and not enough to say I want that over that, both are very nice cars, comes down to looks, interior, gadgets, comfort, seats, etc. You pays your money..etc.
 
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