E85 2.0 vs 3.0 // off the line

Jooboi89

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 Lancaster
So, i drive the 2.0 which is a bit slow to be fair, but i have been wondering, how would the 2.0 fair against a 3.0 from the lights?

Would it make a difference if the 3.0 wasnt as good at changing gears etc than the 2.0?

Does the lighter 2.0 get an advantage for a split second?

I would like to upgrade cars one day in the future but i just love how clean my 2.0 is in my fave colour!
 
I think 0-30mph the differences will be minimal as that is very much determined by grip, working of the TC, driver etc.
Biggest difference will be the 30-60mph, or 30-100mph or whichever speed you want to reach.
If you want to have a fast jump off the lights, get a 4wd car. Thats usually the fastest under normal traction situations. After that rwd (preferably with a mid or rear engine layout), and last fwd.
 
Haha fair play, so the question is, do I have a go or leave dignified next time Im head to head at the lights lol
 
Jooboi89 said:
Haha fair play, so the question is, do I have a go or leave dignified next time Im head to head at the lights lol

You could always get a 2litre e89 and kick sand in their faces :wink:
Rob
 
Let's face it, racing away from the lights probably constitutes about 1% of a normal driving experience. It's the 30-60mph in 3rd or 4th that is felt most often and as said above, the sixes are in a different league because they have so much more torque in that rpm range (as does the E89 2.0l turbo, although you do have a very small amount of lag to content with).

The other reason to change would be reliability. The 2.0l are not good at all in that respect unfortunately.
 
Jooboi89 said:
Haha fair play, so the question is, do I have a go or leave dignified next time Im head to head at the lights lol

Get a remapped Golf R and join the rest of the traffic light GP crew :rofl:
 
ph001 said:
Let's face it, racing away from the lights probably constitutes about 1% of a normal driving experience. It's the 30-60mph in 3rd or 4th that is felt most often and as said above, the sixes are in a different league because they have so much more torque in that rpm range (as does the E89 2.0l turbo, although you do have a very small amount of lag to content with).

The other reason to change would be reliability. The 2.0l are not good at all in that respect unfortunately.

You don't think the 2.0 is reliable? In which sense? I'v had no issues so far touch wood
 
I've owned a 2 ltr and a 3 ltr si. There's no comparison, the figures speak for themselves 150 bhp to 265 bhp (230 bhp on the non si).
The reliability issue on the 2 ltr usually refers to the engine management warning lights that are prone to pop up (this happened randomly on my 2 ltr)
 
2.0l common issues:


  • Cracked exhaust manifolds (expensive as has cat built in).
  • Timing chain tensioner failures
  • Plethora of emissions related problems that seem hard to resolve
  • Valvetronic motors more prone to failure
 
What about running cost comparison?
I'm more than happy with my 2 litre although, if I wasn't skint I would probably have gone for a 3 litre. :thumbsup:
 
ph001 said:
2.0l common issues:


  • Cracked exhaust manifolds (expensive as has cat built in).
  • Timing chain tensioner failures
  • Plethora of emissions related problems that seem hard to resolve
  • Valvetronic motors more prone to failure
Not common issues on mine, had the 2.0i since febuary last year, 10000 miles later not missed a beat :driving:
 
Tomijon said:
What about running cost comparison?
I'm more than happy with my 2 litre although, if I wasn't skint I would probably have gone for a 3 litre. :thumbsup:
Very little in it cost per mile as you have to work the 2.0i so hard. I'd say the 3.0i overall is far better in all ways including the issues mentioned. I'm not a hater but I think BMWs should have six pots, including the diesels.And over the years I've had loads of different variants. Main thing with the four pot is make sure services are kept up and things should be ok. Fingers crossed.
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But does it matter often enough to make you want to change your car OP?

Then again you can get 3 litre ones in Montego Blue with Pearl Grey leather thankfully! :rofl:
 
blackabbot said:
ph001 said:
2.0l common issues:

Good luck and I hope you never have any of them. But fact are facts the exhaust manifolds crack! Seen one for myself. They can be fixed though.


  • Cracked exhaust manifolds (expensive as has cat built in).
  • Timing chain tensioner failures
  • Plethora of emissions related problems that seem hard to resolve
  • Valvetronic motors more prone to failure
Not common issues on mine, had the 2.0i since febuary last year, 10000 miles later not missed a beat :driving:
 
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