Drove a Boxter S today (the six-month itch)

eurgain said:
BBUUTT (a huge "but"): there is no traction control. The only time I actually let the car loose was on a dry motorway sliproad, on which I went at full-throttle to 8500 rpm in second. I then missed the change into third, eventually got fifth, and was passed by a Mundano (or some other repmobile). Pulling out from hunctions was unpleasant, because it was just too easy to use too much throttle and spin the wheels. At one point, I even spun the wheels in 3rd in a straight line (which took me back ten years to my BMW M535i).
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Interesting because they now all come with (switchable) ESP and traction control, which I would agree is a must in the UK and one of the main reason I never bought an S2k.

Also, it never felt significantly better than my MX-5 (apart from the power obviously, but not interior, etc) and it was far more expensive to insure for me than the Z4, the main reason for which I presume is down to the number that get crashed.
 
My insurance dropped by $300/yr when I traded my 2005 S2000 for the Z4 Coupe.

The S2000 on a wet track was the most difficult car to keep on the roadway I have ever driven. Pure white knuckle driving with both the front and the rear ends trying to come out from under you constantly while you held up just about everyone else on the track until they could get around you on the straights. You can learn a lot about car control under such circumstances but you can never relax behind the wheel when the roads are wet.
 
S2000 is a great car but should have had some form of Traction control from the start. I loved it to drive but it was unpredictable at the limits. The interior is looking dated but the biggest gripe I has was no adjustment to the steering, not alot for the seat and very little storage.Honda could have 'solved' these problems for little outlay.

Boxster is in comparison easy to drive well and that's a tribute to the way it is built. However, some like to feel that they have had to work to get the best out of their car. The Z4 gives the best of both worlds for me.
 
Wondermike said:
eurgain said:
BBUUTT (a huge "but"): there is no traction control. The only time I actually let the car loose was on a dry motorway sliproad, on which I went at full-throttle to 8500 rpm in second. I then missed the change into third, eventually got fifth, and was passed by a Mundano (or some other repmobile). Pulling out from hunctions was unpleasant, because it was just too easy to use too much throttle and spin the wheels. At one point, I even spun the wheels in 3rd in a straight line (which took me back ten years to my BMW M535i).
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Interesting because they now all come with (switchable) ESP and traction control, which I would agree is a must in the UK and one of the main reason I never bought an S2k.

Also, it never felt significantly better than my MX-5 (apart from the power obviously, but not interior, etc) and it was far more expensive to insure for me than the Z4, the main reason for which I presume is down to the number that get crashed.
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Yep! Tio insure my Z4, I pay one third!! of the best quote I had for the S2000! And I have a 3-litre Z4, not a 2.0 cruiser and need Class 1 business use for myself and my (non-married) partner. The S200 would have cost me 50% more to insure on the same terms than a 964 model Porsche 911, which tells you something about the car.

After my test drive, I said to the salesman that I thouiught the S2K to be an accident waiting to happen, and he did admit that several of his friends had proven this to be the case....

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