Drivers Window Issues

GreySquirrel

GreySquirrel

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 Torquay
I need some advice, it's a long story, but the detail may help.

Today I fitted my replacement driver's side wing and door. The door came with all parts, airbag unit, window, motor, the lot.

All went well; the car looks great, and I've finally fixed the panel gaps. I plugged everything in, but the driver's electric window won't move. I can hear the relay working, I've tested the power at the multiplug where it comes through the door, and there is power there. The motor works as I have connected it directly to a spare battery, and the window goes up and down. The plug to the motor seems to have 12v, whether the switch is on or not, which is strange.

The problem is, I left the door outside over the weekend, lying down, shiny side up. The electrics should be fine. I used some contact cleaner to clean the multiplug and dried it out with a hairdryer, just in case there was any dampness in there. So maybe it's water damage.

I've given up now, it's dark and wet, I've even had to buy a car cover as the window isn't sealing properly because it won't drop when the door is opened and the weather seal is off as well. Any ideas?
 
Is the donor door the same age as your car? Only thing I can think of (I doubt it will be water issues) is that pre vs facelift are different plugs.

In the am it may be worth checking the pins align to the right wires
 
Yes, It's the same age. I'm thinking of putting my old door back on, I've just seen how hard it is to change the door locks over!
 
GreySquirrel said:
Yes, It's the same age. I'm thinking of putting my old door back on, I've just seen how hard it is to change the door locks over!
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Are you kidding? Door locks are easy.
And it's not difficult to swap the loom if you need to.
 
Drivers is a PITA to change the lock but doable

Easier job to change the motors over

Was the old one working ok?
 
So maybe not a complete loss then. I'm stuck and don't know what to do from here, will sleep on it I think. So I may need to change the door loom? Perhaps the pins are different on the trim level of the donor car. And locks are not too bad to change? A video I watched suggested that the window and window motor need to come out. I've been beating myself up about this as the car was fine before other than failed lacquer on the wing and top of the door. Now the lock is wrong, the window doesn't work, and I've got the airbag light on as I forgot to disconnect the flipping battery! And it was all going so well!
 
The door lock itself requires the outer handle removed, then a grub screw released. Key inserted, twisted and pulled out. That’s it
 
The pins for pre face lift and post face lift are different and won’t fit together. The motors are a different colour also, one white, the other black. Have you made sure that the lifter wires are properly on the spools and not jamming in your new door? Can you manually lift the window by hand and is it behind the window mechanism? If it has been in a parcel has it become jiggled and things become out of place?
 
You are all a very knowledgeable lot, and I am proud to be part of this group! I decided to change the loom but noticed immediately that, as MikeyH said, my old window motor is white and the donor car one is black. Mine has a 6-pin connector, the other uses just 2 pins. So I need to swap the motors and regulators over as well. Doesn't look to be too tricky, I've got the loom out already. Not sure how I can drop the window though, to access the bolt that holds the glass in place without the door in the car.

I just hope I haven't damaged any electrical stuff by using the incorrect plug!

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's a long way away, but it's there!
 
GreySquirrel said:
You are all a very knowledgeable lot, and I am proud to be part of this group! I decided to change the loom but noticed immediately that, as MikeyH said, my old window motor is white and the donor car one is black. Mine has a 6-pin connector, the other uses just 2 pins. So I need to swap the motors and regulators over as well. Doesn't look to be too tricky, I've got the loom out already. Not sure how I can drop the window though, to access the bolt that holds the glass in place without the door in the car.

I just hope I haven't damaged any electrical stuff by using the incorrect plug!

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's a long way away, but it's there!
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You don't need to remove the regulator, just swap the motors over. Three torx screws that you can get to with the glass up.
If the glass is down just put a battery across the two thickest wires on the motor and it should wind up.
 
I have a white one that came with my window mechanism from enuff_zed. it has 6 pins. I don't know if it works as I needed to change it over. I though it was different as I thought it was from a face lift car. Before you faff about anymore with the loom why don't you see if mine works. It's yours if you want it. Free.
 
I think you are local to me greysquirrel , I'm in the Newton Abbot area if you want to pop by and pick it up. Let me know and I will PM you my address :thumbsup:
 
Can you get here, if not I can bring the part over to you. It is very tight getting the motor screws out you will need a right angled tool. I took it all out again once I realised. I'll PM you now. :thumbsup:
 
Right, I've swapped the door loom and changed the motor (which was easy) and it's all working perfectly now. I think I may have a slight gap at the top back of the window so going to give it a drive tomorrow to check for wind noise. Also, I'm not putting the door panel back on yet as I still need to do the locks so have to drop the window to open the door with the outside handle for a day, not really an issue.

So....

Is there any adjustment for the fit of the window that I can complete before putting it all back together?

I already have an airbag light, like a numpty I didn't disconnect the battery before starting work, I can get it reset, but will it cause any issues if I drive it without the driver's side impact airbag present in the door?

Finally, any tips for removing the lock barrel? I know I have to remove the "hairclip" thingy on the inside of the door, but any tips would be welcome.

Thanks for all the advice up to now guys, couldn't have done it without you!
 
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