draught from driver's window

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Hi!

When driving on motorways and doing more than 50mph I get a draught from the drivers side.
The faster I go the stronger it gets, with an annoying whistling noise.
I've had the car checked at Sytner, and they came back to me saying there's nothing wrong with it.

I did use Gummi Pflege in October and I cant see any rubber cracks or similar.

What I think is happening is that the window's angle with respect to the rubber edge is a few degrees out (if that makes any sense).
I can tell because there is room to press the window inwards when standing out.

The passenger's window doesn't make any noise at all, and when standing out there is no room to press it inwards.

So, obviously going back to Sytner isn't going to be of much help. How can I fix this on my own?
Do I have to take off the driver's door trim/cover off and somehow adjust the window?
 
you can re-align the window. mine was out at the front after we had the glass out. it's now out a tiny bit at the back, but is water-tight so leaving it until summer when our hands won't be numb :lol:

it's easy enough to get the glass out, once you take off the doorcard and sound deadening, but it takes quite a few goes to get the alignment perfect. you also need to do a thorough test after each try (going up to 70mph and spraying water around the edge of the glass).
 
Yeah that's what I thought. It is water tight, but somehow there's whistling when doing more than 50 and it becomes deafening at high speeds.
So do I need to remove the glass and place it back, or are there some sort of hinges or bolts that I can adjust for the angle of the window?

NeilP, it comes from between the window and rubber frame, as speed and pressure builds up, it creates a draught.
 
You can move it around slightly after unbolting it from the mechanism. My dad done the work whilst I held the glass. It's a diy job, but obviously requires patience.
 
I had a whistle on mine. Is your door flush with the bodywork on the driver's side? I compared it with the passenger side which was perfectly flush . My driver's door was a fraction proud and I moved the door lock hoop on the body back a mm or so to bring it back in line. No more whistle.
 
bladeowner, thank you for being sensible. I will check it out, I think its perfectly aligned with the bodywork, but will make double sure before doing anything to the window.
The gap between rubber edge and window is a few mm thick, just 3-4mm, but enough to make a difference, so maybe I could just do what you said instead.

Ben thank you, that's all the info I needed:)
 
Certain adjustments can be made without removing the door card. One is behind the outer handle and there are a couple access holes at the door bottom IIRC. Best to reference the TIS, it's too fiddly to try to explain here.
 
Well i have the same problem as you Vortex but still i haven't found any solution. I tried moving more to the center the catch plate, I've tried to realigning the window but nothing has changed. My last hope of fixing this is the replacement of the roof rubber seals which i bought today and will fit on monday morning. Quite expensive for just 3 pieces of rubber (170,00 euro).Hope this works because i am out of ideas....
 
@VENDAR
I don't think the rubber seals are so much of an issue unless you can see cracking on the rubber. When the door is shut, there is room left for the window to go in, and as such I imagine in high speeds due to negative pressure the window may move even further out. It may have happened by a replaced glass, or maybe someone tried to get into the car by pulling the window.

@bcworkz I've been looking for them holes, would you happen to have a link or a reference ? Thanks!
 
ben g said:
You can move it around slightly after unbolting it from the mechanism. My dad done the work whilst I held the glass. It's a diy job, but obviously requires patience.
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so what you suggest is take the door card off unbolt the window from the regulator so that it can be moved around and then push the part of the window that the wind sound comes from towards the center of the car so that it seals probably and then retighten the window on the regulator?
 
that's what we did. i held the glass whilst my dad unbolted it all, then we moved it around and test fitted it loads.

it was sealed perfectly, or so we thought when doing a 30mph test. unfortunately you need to get up to 60-70mph to make sure.

taking the doorcard off is the best way to check everything as you have access to the window then.
 
vortex said:
@bcworkz I've been looking for them holes, would you happen to have a link or a reference ? Thanks!
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I'm going off my recollection of what I saw in the TIS when it was still online sometime back. I may have mis-remembered what I saw, if so, my apologies. Unfortunately, the site that hosted the TIS apparently got a take down notice, and no online resource currently exists AFAIK. You can get copies on DVD from ebay for several quid though.
 
This is the window adjustment:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/29297520/RA%20%20Adjusting%20left%20or%20right%20front%20door%20window%20glass.PDF
 
@Ben G

Your suggestion put me into some serious thoughts and i went by my local indy who i trust my car with to check on the window position and the regulator all around. We stripped down the door card and we inspected the way the window was fitted and moved. Everything was as it should be tight and straight. Window was in the right position and there was not even one place where me or my indy could see a fault in window fitment. So what fixed your breeze problem is not going to help in my situation :( . I am really frustrated with this issue. I have tried almost everything ( last thing to try is the roof rubber seal replacements which i will replace tomorrow morning) and nothing seems to work. Fingers crossed that this will actually work. Will give you guys an update with this matter tomorrow.... If the replacement of the rubber seals doesn't fix this i am going cabrio style all the time :headbang:
 
@Bladeowner Thank you so much !

I have figured out where exactly the draught is from, its the rear part of the window, near the driver's ear (RHD).
That is where water came in through every time I took it to the car wash.

I'll try adjusting the window inwards just 1-2 mm at the read and then playing with the settings bladeowner uploaded.

There seem to be two ways, adjusting by removing door handle, and adjusting the window rail.
I reckon I'll try the window rail as it may be easier, as I don't know how to remove the door handle to do the first one.
 
No probs. :)
When I had the gap on mine and adjusted the door, I used a strip of printer paper and trapped it in between the window and the rubber by shutting the door on it an pulled it out again to feel the resistance compared with the passenger side.
 
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