Do the speedometers overestimate speed?

I think most do, makes you think you are going faster than you are and saves money in speeding tickets.
 
It's traditional to have them overstate speed - flatters the driver, avoids any claims against the manufacturer, provides a margin of error for the driver, etc.
 
GPS is only able to measure speed across the earth. If you are going up or down hill, then the GPS will underread. GPS also has trouble with corners. The only time it will be accurate is when you are travelling straight and level. These errors account for some of the discrepancy but most speedos do overread anyway as has already been said.
 
Medium Dave said:
GPS is only able to measure speed across the earth. If you are going up or down hill, then the GPS will underread. GPS also has trouble with corners. The only time it will be accurate is when you are travelling straight and level. These errors account for some of the discrepancy but most speedos do overread anyway as has already been said.


Can't speak for the Z4 but assume its the same as on the X5 where to overcome this problem and enable the sat nav to calulate it's position accurately enough to work small scale maps (say navigating city roads) or where GPS signal is poor the car takes reading from the anti lock brakes of their absolute and relative speed of rotation and calculates the position and speed until the next GPS reading updates.

Pretty cool me thinks :)
 
cj10jeeper said:
Medium Dave said:
GPS is only able to measure speed across the earth. If you are going up or down hill, then the GPS will underread. GPS also has trouble with corners. The only time it will be accurate is when you are travelling straight and level. These errors account for some of the discrepancy but most speedos do overread anyway as has already been said.


Can't speak for the Z4 but assume its the same as on the X5 where to overcome this problem and enable the sat nav to calulate it's position accurately enough to work small scale maps (say navigating city roads) or where GPS signal is poor the car takes reading from the anti lock brakes of their absolute and relative speed of rotation and calculates the position and speed until the next GPS reading updates.

Pretty cool me thinks :)


Uhm I'm just going to nod and say ok.



Anyways, Yeah both my Garmin and the old Magellan red approx 2mph slower than what the speedo said. It's kinda bad knowing that because now I have tendency to put the speedo 2 mph over.
Oh a cop pulled me over on Mt Charleston the other day...clocked me at 82mph. I think I had the speed at 85mph, but I wasn't paying that close attention. On a side note he asked some questions about the car, I showed him the engine bay, then asked how in the hell an E-5 affords this car. He let me off with a warning. I should offered him a beer or two. Ok I jest, I didn't have beer with me.
 
E-5?

I was impressed last night (related to cj10jeeper's post) - I was going throgh a lot of tunnels in central London, and it knew exactly where I was in the tunnels, even though no GPS coverage (obviously). TomTom just went mental and cried.
 
Having been through the speedo pain for the SVA of a kit car, the 'UK' law allows speedos to be +8% / -0% out in every gear..

When we did the kit car, using the gear / final drive ratios & rolling distance of the wheels, you can work out RPM v MPH, we did this and calibrated the speedo to be 3mph over. When the inspector checked it was that. The GPS reads about 1-3 mph out depending on the road conditions.
 
There's a bulletin from BMW on the speed calibration telling techs the tolerence for error adjustment upon customer complaints or query. Generally speaking, there's a 2-5% below actual indicated speed error built in with intent by BMW. It's posted over at bimmerfest, however, the site is down right now.
 
Speedo does read a bit over I have seen a smidge over 160 with the speedo but the sat nav recorded 158.. :P
 
with the 17" wheels (103 style), the speedo reads 2-3mph over. With 19" wheels, the speedo reads dead on. :|
 
In the US the federal mandated error tolerance is +4 / -0 mph. I'm sure that is at average highway speeds and turns into a percentage as speed increases. I've always noticed that on all my vehicles. My truck was actually -4 at 70mph (speedo read 70 and I was actually doing 74) when I bought it last year. Dealership was required by law to correct it at no charge. It is now +2 at 70mph.
 
DHK said:
I don't have speed on my sat nav. Can it be programmed?

Use to live in PR. Just test your speed going down the grade into SLO with that "YOUR SPEED IS" crap on the right. :wink:
 
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