Difference between 16" and 18" alloys?

liTTle wHitE sHarK..

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 Birmingham
Hi guys, I know this may sound like a stupid question :oops: and don't tell me the answer is 2"(!) but apart from the 18" alloys looking nicer, how do each of them feel while driving? What are the advantages and disadvantages of both? Thanks!!
 
Weight is a big difference and the ride will be a little softer with bigger alloys. Other more knowledgeable people will be along shortly. :)
 
I think that's what he meant.

- with 18s you'll have less sidewall, so better feel, better turn in & a little harsher ride than 16s
 
All other factors being the same (ie wheel and tyre width, type of tyre, etc. and ultimate tyre rolling radius) then I would expect larger rims to primarily:
1) give a harsher ride as they have a smaller sidewall to compress and act as a part of the suspension
2) improved grip as the same smaller sidewall flexes less and therefore keeps the tread flat

Problem is that when people change from 1 size rim to a larger they likely change tyre brands, rim width, offset, rolling radius, weight of wheel/tyre and where that it is in relation to the wheel centre and numerous other factors that can make countless new characteristics appear. The end result can be different acceleration, braking, cornering, tramlining, ride quality and many more factors that few ever consider, but they often look great :)

I know much of this from bitter experience of running Jeeps on 29", 31", 33" and 35" tyres all on 15" rims. Alloy rims, steel rims, Radial and crossply tyres. AT, MT and snow. Until I hit the road at 70MPH. I rarely have any idea if the Jeep will even be driveable without changing gear ratios and many other suspension dynamics.

Sorry - a long answer, but it is a complex subject
 
Err.. are you sure about this.. ? The diameter of the wheel / tyre combination will determine the overall circumferance 8) If it's not the same your Speedometer ( MPH) will be out of Sync - which it may well be! :D Low proflies and bigger rims will typically equal the original rolling distance provided the overall diameter matches the original? If you know what I mean. Debate :roll:
 
Jesterman said:
Err.. are you sure about this.. ? The diameter of the wheel / tyre combination will determine the overall circumferance 8) If it's not the same your Speedometer ( MPH) will be out of Sync - which it may well be! :D Low proflies and bigger rims will typically equal the original rolling distance provided the overall diameter matches the original? If you know what I mean. Debate :roll:

Jesterman - you are starting to touch on the issues, but to assume bigger rims and low profile tyres would typically equal the original .... is not really correct. Rarely does it. You need know the rolling radius of the tyre at a given speed. That is controlled by absolute size, pressure, speed and structure of the tyre which collectively determines how close it is to original. Typically people slap a bigger rim on and some reduced profile tyre that fits the arch ( I genaralise of course)
Spot on re speedometers. They oft need correcting and indeed both my Jeeps run supplemental speedo gearboxes to correct to within a minor %

GP20's comment about going to bigger rims will slow down the car I don't understand. Acceleration or absolute speed? Ignoring weight if the rolling radius is greater that effectively increases the gearing and will reduce acceleration and may or may not affect top speed, which is more to do with engine power, wind resistance, etc. that rim size.

Intersting stuff - I love it.... :)
 
Tire Rack has some info on this subject. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=25

They also have a comparison of BMW's and plus tire sizing (still looking for the link) where they concluded that BMW's performed well up to and including 17" wheels but lost time (on the track, by one or more seconds) by going to 18's. One problem I had finding 18's I liked was the unsprung weight of the wheel. The heaver the wheel, the slower the acceleration. More torque to move the car. Theres more to it than that but thats the jist of it...

This site: http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp can tell you what your rolling radius's will be and how accurate your speedometer will be.

But my Z4 look ALOT better with the new 18" than with the original 16's.
 
Found the link for the Wheel Weight/Size comparison on Tire Rack:

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=108&currentpage=98
 
Jesterman said:
Err.. are you sure about this.. ? The diameter of the wheel / tyre combination will determine the overall circumferance 8) If it's not the same your Speedometer ( MPH) will be out of Sync - which it may well be! :D Low proflies and bigger rims will typically equal the original rolling distance provided the overall diameter matches the original? If you know what I mean. Debate :roll:

Overall diameters will not be the same when you go from 16" to 18" on the Z4. Speedometer will be slightly off, but not significant enough.

When I say going from 16" to 18" will slow down your Z4, I meant the added unsprung weight, and also your rotational mass is further away from the center of the rim. Acceleration will be compromised.
 
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