Diesels left running
- Thread starter MikeyH
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It's purely because they are idiots*. :roll:MikeyH said:
There is an epidemic of idiots lately. Hopefully somebody is developing a vaccine, because it is getting out of control.
Those same idiots will be sitting in their cars complaining on Facebook or Twatter, on their £2,000 i-phones, how fuel prices are crippling and their 'all inclusive' holiday in Greece was ruined by the heat and fires. And that they are struggling to pay the rent!
* disclaimer: idiots also drive petrol and EVs but they are more difficult to hear or smell, especially the latter (unless the batteries spontaneously combust, then it's a firework show).
It is illegal. The Road Traffic Act 1988 prohibits leaving your engine on when it is not needed. This act enforces Rule 123 of the Highway Code, which states “you must not leave a vehicle’s engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road”.pvr said:
Which is quite ironic when "the highways dept" vehicles I see are always left with their engines running while the 'hi-vis' jacket brigade have a good chin-wag rather than doing anything constructive. And when they all stop for lunch (each one in a separate van or lorry of course) they all sit there with the engines running, even in Summer!BeeEmm said:
I refer back to my first post on the subject; idiots!
Diesels be damned, people with petrol engines have done it for donkeys years. I've always presumed they want the aircon going and are too lazy to open the window and turn it off. I watched some people in a 540i sat for bloody ages idling on a day that was of a perfectly neutrality and joyous to be out in. Must have cost a fortune.
Oddly enough, at idle, Diesels are jolly efficient. I have a friend who, for many years, was at the side of the motorways in hi-viz and he was quite amazed at how little fuel he'd burn leaving it idling for hours. When you've got a plethora of beacons on the roof, a water heater to run and need to be able to actually get home without calling the AA for a jump start, and also want somewhere warm to dry off in because it's hissing down with rain, leaving it running does make sense.
Oddly enough, at idle, Diesels are jolly efficient. I have a friend who, for many years, was at the side of the motorways in hi-viz and he was quite amazed at how little fuel he'd burn leaving it idling for hours. When you've got a plethora of beacons on the roof, a water heater to run and need to be able to actually get home without calling the AA for a jump start, and also want somewhere warm to dry off in because it's hissing down with rain, leaving it running does make sense.
First google hit on the idling question:
Fact - An idling engine can produce up to twice as many exhaust emissions as an engine in motion. An idling car can fill up to 150 balloons with harmful emissions every minute. Switching off your engine can go a long way to improving air quality
As always, depends where you are. On a motorway hard shoulder it is not going to impact anyone. In a residential area, it will.
Fact - An idling engine can produce up to twice as many exhaust emissions as an engine in motion. An idling car can fill up to 150 balloons with harmful emissions every minute. Switching off your engine can go a long way to improving air quality
As always, depends where you are. On a motorway hard shoulder it is not going to impact anyone. In a residential area, it will.
This will no doubt trigger a few here, but I’ll go for it anyway :lol:Pondrew said:Don't know about anyone else, but I find it impossible to drive more than one at a time. So that point is irrelevant.inkey$ said:
Think there are a few associated with 'climate change' who would possibly tell you.inkey$ said:
Climate change is obviously important and cars clearly impact things to a degree. My point was that this is a car forum for people who own more than one, so calling out random people spotted on tick-over felt a little bizarre.
While on its own it's fairly irrelevant and, if people want to pee their money up the wall, so be it. However, what gets me, is that it's a sign that people just don't associate wasting energy with cost, let alone the ever nearing heat death of the planet(!)
I've always been against wasting anything (but without living the hair shirt lifestyle) but it always amazes me how much people can't control their spending (while often moaning they're broke.) Short wearing in mid winter with heating systems cranked up to red hot. Constantly running washing machines because wearing something more than once is actually impossible. Etc etc.
I'm not really going anywhere with this but I honestly don't think Joe Soap gives a fig for the environment if they can't do basic self control.
I've always been against wasting anything (but without living the hair shirt lifestyle) but it always amazes me how much people can't control their spending (while often moaning they're broke.) Short wearing in mid winter with heating systems cranked up to red hot. Constantly running washing machines because wearing something more than once is actually impossible. Etc etc.
I'm not really going anywhere with this but I honestly don't think Joe Soap gives a fig for the environment if they can't do basic self control.
Hang on a moment, cowboy. I’m not sure we’ve actually met, but clearly you know me in depth. That comment was linked to what I do for 10 mins waiting for somebody in a car when its hot and I want to hear the radio; not how I refuse to understand that its all ultimately planet impacting. My response to the thread originally was to do with people complaining of other car owners sitting there on tickover, when they/we all own at least two cars - one of which is for ‘fun’.BeeEmm said: