Detailing advice

Autovisiondetailing said:
Looks like all your hard work paid off!! How did you find Temptation?

Was my first time waxing a car so I have nothing to compare it to, but it smelled nice and I got attacked by a bee, so he obviously agreed. It went on nice, tool a few mins to cure up and then buffed off with a good bit of elbow grease. Got any recommendations for alternatives or which different waxes provide which properties?

I'm interested to see how the rain rolls off it tomorrow when the storm sets in!
 
DinosaurEyes said:
Autovisiondetailing said:
Looks like all your hard work paid off!! How did you find Temptation?

Was my first time waxing a car so I have nothing to compare it to, but it smelled nice and I got attacked by a bee, so he obviously agreed. It went on nice, tool a few mins to cure up and then buffed off with a good bit of elbow grease. Got any recommendations for alternatives or which different waxes provide which properties?

I'm interested to see how the rain rolls off it tomorrow when the storm sets in!

Temptation is a good entry level wax. If you are wanting something different that'll give your car a deep/wet gloss look, Show wax is what you'll want These type of waxes generally don't have a very long durability so ideal for the warmer months:

Auto Finesse Illusion £75
Auto Perfection Intensify £50
Bouncers Vanillia Ice £50
Or our very own AutoVision Waxipan £40 (my car is wearing 3layers and obviously has been machine corrected)
 

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Auto vision detailing that is a superb response , one of the most comprehensive itemised list of detailing steps I have come across , no waffle just facts and good advice I will benefit from this thanks mate , :thumbsup:
 
Tricky Dicky said:
Auto vision detailing that is a superb response , one of the most comprehensive itemised list of detailing steps I have come across , no waffle just facts and good advice I will benefit from this thanks mate , :thumbsup:


No worries

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That is a great write up Auto vision detailing. The main thing to take in consideration taking your time and don't rush the procedures. The other important part of the waxing is decontaminating the car, as this will reflect the end finish. You could add a few more products / procedures to Auto vision detailing post if you want the perfect finish. such as Iron X the car before claying and a paint cleaner after polishing (dependant on the polished used). :driving: :thumbsup:
 
Agreed this is a great post and helped me recently when I decided to start on my cars and bike. While I like my cars to look good I can’t really be bothered being properly anal about it ( I’d rather drive it for three hours than clean it) I thought they could do with a good clean and polish to make it easier to do the same in future.

I’ve got a Civic as my daily driver and Z4 & bike for fun. I planned to do all three last Saturday and stocked up on products to make a good job of it. Plans went to sh*t so I started late and only managed three hours on the Civic but by god did it look better afterwards! Wash, clay, wash scratch remover polish & wax so nowhere near as thorough as some people but it has made the world of difference.

It’s the turn of the Z4 on Sunday this week which will get pretty much the same treatment. I will also be using it to see where more work on the body is needed and decide whether it’s worth spending any money on or leaving it as is, I’m hoping giving it the same treatment will get rid of most of the issues and I will be happy, just leaving me to decide what I’m doing wheels wise!
 
Top reply from Autovisiondetailing, thank you!. My shopping basket is now suitably full! Can't wait to get detailing again!

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Autovisiondetailing said:
Hi Tallspeaker,

So there are dozens of steps depending on how thorough you want to be. Obviously once you've done a thorough detail there are a few steps you bypass.

So here are the steps and equipment/products.

Prewash - this is typically a snow foam. What this does is loosen the dirt and as the foam dwells it removes an amount of dirt. Depending on product the dwell times are usually up to 10minutes. Products I'd highly recommend are BD Clean Snow foam or Auto Finesse Avalanche. You can agitate with a soft detailing brush around badges, gaps and grilles. Pressure wash off, never leave to dry on the paintwork.
Depending on time of year so for example winter I would always a citrus prewash. You simply spray on (I concentrate on the lower half) leave to dwell then pressure wash off. Auto Finesse Citrus power

Now it comes to the actual cleaning.

I use 3 buckets with grit guards. Why 3? One for wheels. One for shampoo and one for rinsing. What you don't want to do is dunk your wash mitt into your shampoo mix which will contaminate your clean water with dirt which causes swirls/scratches. Grit guards do exactly that, these create a barrier between your mitt and grit as the grit falls to the bottom. I used Chemical Guys Mr Pink, BD clean Shampoo, chemical Guys V07.

I use two lambs wool mitts (one for the upper half and then one for lower), the plush pile traps any grit while passing on the paintwork thus helping your paintwork stay swirl free. Wheel wise i use wheel woollies, EZ brushes and detailing brushes for a deep clean. Large brushes such as these allow you to clean the barrel of your wheel rather than just washing the alloy rim. Product wise I personally like Chemical Guys Diablo wheel cleaner in a spray bottle and Auto Finesse Revolution in the bucket. Clean the wheels first before the paintwork.
Next up is the start of the decontamition process. When cleaning the car, clean in one direction. Do not do as the Polish do and wash in circles.

Over time your car will pick up tar and iron particles from your brakes. These are spray on products so are quick to apply. First up would be Auto Finesse Iron Out. This reacts with iron turning purple so a great show to be had. Rinse after a few minutes. You can also use this on heavily soiled alloys but shouldn't be used frequently. For Tar I use Gyeon Tar. This physically melts the tar spots, simply spray onto the affected area, leave to dwell then either agitate or rinse off. Again this can be used on alloys.

Next up is claying. You can either use a clay mitt for quicker results or a clay bar. Clay bars are in various grades, depending on if your car has been clayed before. You can test this by running your fingers across the paintwork. If it feels like sandpaper then you'd need a medium grade followed by a fine grade. Pull off a chunk, mold it in the palm of your hand then flatten. You must use a lube, without you will damage the paintwork and cause marring. I use Dodo Juice Born Slippy, liberally spray a panel (ie a wing) and continue to spray while cleaning. You'll need to fold the clay once it's become contaminated. Keep running your fingers on the paintwork, if smooth and you can't hear anything then move on to the next section.

Right what's next. After claying snow foam then rinse off.

Drying. Now this is where a large majority of damage can be done. You want a plush drying towel such as Autobrite the reaper or Auto finesse Aqua deluxe. Plush towels work the same a mitt, the fibres trap any remaining dirt or fallen dust while drying. There are two methods either a dab or fold and light drag in one direction.

Polishing is next. If you have a machine polisher then it all depends on how swirled your paintwork is. If it's heavily swirled then a 3 stage paint correction is required. By 3 stage I mean you'd use 3 grades of compound and pads. Starting off with the most aggressive then refining as you go. I could write another essay on this so if you decide on a 3stage then let me know. If you don't have a machine and need to apply by hand Glazes are great at covering and filling swirls and scratches. These are used on application pads. Work on one panel at a time. Obviously this is a temporary fix and will need to keep applying over time. Product wise I'd recommend Auto Finnese Ultra Glaze, Chemical Guys Glossworkz or Autobrite Renew.

Right then you are almost there to admire your hard work. Sealing and waxing are my two favourite stages. Sealant basically does that, it adds a layer of protection against contamination and salt. These help prolong your paintwork over time. Apply to the whole car including arches, door sills etc. products wise Auto Finesse Tough coat - extremely easy to apply and a little goes a long way. Simply spray into an application pad, apply in a circular motion. Allow to haze then buff off(use tough coat beforehand), Soft 99 fusso, fantastic hydrophobic properties, again apply thinly, allow to haze then buff off. This has up to 12months protection (great for winter). Auto Finesse Power Seal, same as above. There are hundreds of sealants out there but these for me are tried and tested.

Waxing.....where do I begin. You can buy a wax from as little as £10 all the way to well thousands!! Depending on the desired look you can get waxes designed for car shows, these have extra gloss properties but only have a longevity of a few weeks. Different waxes do different things like bring out flake pop, warm glows, added depth. Waxes I use Complete Auto Finesse range, Infinity Wax, Carspunk (yes that's correct) Valet Pro, Soft 99, Autobrite, Waxaddict to name a few. Set your self a budget and stick to it. Waxes can be an enjoyable money pit. Something from the Soft 99 range are a good start.

Don't forget to seal your alloy wheels to help keeping them in tip top condition. You can either use ceramic sealants like Gtechniq or Carbon Collection. Wheel waxes are also available like Poorboys Natty paste or Auto finesse Mint rims. Apply like a normal wax, allow to haze then buff off.

Dressing the plastics and tyres are next. Tyre wise I've used dozens over the years but have found Carbon Collective Sateen to be the best and actually lasts in our weather conditions. Again a little goes a long way. This product gives a satin finish however you can matte or high gloss gels.

Plastics - I use Valet Pro Black to the future which is correctly prepped lasts, again you can use "permanent" products such as Gtechniq and carbon collective.

Once a thorough detail has been carried out you can skip claying, decontamination, polishing and sealing but can top up your wax on regular maintenance washes.

I don't think I've missed anything but probably have but typing all this on my phone is hard work. Feel free to message me.

Hi - this is an AMAZING write up - I'm just about to start detailing my car following your instructions and was wondering do I do a foam was at the start AND after doing the claying part? Cheers!
 
idej_jedi said:
Autovisiondetailing said:
Hi Tallspeaker,

So there are dozens of steps depending on how thorough you want to be. Obviously once you've done a thorough detail there are a few steps you bypass.

So here are the steps and equipment/products.

Prewash - this is typically a snow foam. What this does is loosen the dirt and as the foam dwells it removes an amount of dirt. Depending on product the dwell times are usually up to 10minutes. Products I'd highly recommend are BD Clean Snow foam or Auto Finesse Avalanche. You can agitate with a soft detailing brush around badges, gaps and grilles. Pressure wash off, never leave to dry on the paintwork.
Depending on time of year so for example winter I would always a citrus prewash. You simply spray on (I concentrate on the lower half) leave to dwell then pressure wash off. Auto Finesse Citrus power

Now it comes to the actual cleaning.

I use 3 buckets with grit guards. Why 3? One for wheels. One for shampoo and one for rinsing. What you don't want to do is dunk your wash mitt into your shampoo mix which will contaminate your clean water with dirt which causes swirls/scratches. Grit guards do exactly that, these create a barrier between your mitt and grit as the grit falls to the bottom. I used Chemical Guys Mr Pink, BD clean Shampoo, chemical Guys V07.

I use two lambs wool mitts (one for the upper half and then one for lower), the plush pile traps any grit while passing on the paintwork thus helping your paintwork stay swirl free. Wheel wise i use wheel woollies, EZ brushes and detailing brushes for a deep clean. Large brushes such as these allow you to clean the barrel of your wheel rather than just washing the alloy rim. Product wise I personally like Chemical Guys Diablo wheel cleaner in a spray bottle and Auto Finesse Revolution in the bucket. Clean the wheels first before the paintwork.
Next up is the start of the decontamition process. When cleaning the car, clean in one direction. Do not do as the Polish do and wash in circles.

Over time your car will pick up tar and iron particles from your brakes. These are spray on products so are quick to apply. First up would be Auto Finesse Iron Out. This reacts with iron turning purple so a great show to be had. Rinse after a few minutes. You can also use this on heavily soiled alloys but shouldn't be used frequently. For Tar I use Gyeon Tar. This physically melts the tar spots, simply spray onto the affected area, leave to dwell then either agitate or rinse off. Again this can be used on alloys.

Next up is claying. You can either use a clay mitt for quicker results or a clay bar. Clay bars are in various grades, depending on if your car has been clayed before. You can test this by running your fingers across the paintwork. If it feels like sandpaper then you'd need a medium grade followed by a fine grade. Pull off a chunk, mold it in the palm of your hand then flatten. You must use a lube, without you will damage the paintwork and cause marring. I use Dodo Juice Born Slippy, liberally spray a panel (ie a wing) and continue to spray while cleaning. You'll need to fold the clay once it's become contaminated. Keep running your fingers on the paintwork, if smooth and you can't hear anything then move on to the next section.

Right what's next. After claying snow foam then rinse off.

Drying. Now this is where a large majority of damage can be done. You want a plush drying towel such as Autobrite the reaper or Auto finesse Aqua deluxe. Plush towels work the same a mitt, the fibres trap any remaining dirt or fallen dust while drying. There are two methods either a dab or fold and light drag in one direction.

Polishing is next. If you have a machine polisher then it all depends on how swirled your paintwork is. If it's heavily swirled then a 3 stage paint correction is required. By 3 stage I mean you'd use 3 grades of compound and pads. Starting off with the most aggressive then refining as you go. I could write another essay on this so if you decide on a 3stage then let me know. If you don't have a machine and need to apply by hand Glazes are great at covering and filling swirls and scratches. These are used on application pads. Work on one panel at a time. Obviously this is a temporary fix and will need to keep applying over time. Product wise I'd recommend Auto Finnese Ultra Glaze, Chemical Guys Glossworkz or Autobrite Renew.

Right then you are almost there to admire your hard work. Sealing and waxing are my two favourite stages. Sealant basically does that, it adds a layer of protection against contamination and salt. These help prolong your paintwork over time. Apply to the whole car including arches, door sills etc. products wise Auto Finesse Tough coat - extremely easy to apply and a little goes a long way. Simply spray into an application pad, apply in a circular motion. Allow to haze then buff off(use tough coat beforehand), Soft 99 fusso, fantastic hydrophobic properties, again apply thinly, allow to haze then buff off. This has up to 12months protection (great for winter). Auto Finesse Power Seal, same as above. There are hundreds of sealants out there but these for me are tried and tested.

Waxing.....where do I begin. You can buy a wax from as little as £10 all the way to well thousands!! Depending on the desired look you can get waxes designed for car shows, these have extra gloss properties but only have a longevity of a few weeks. Different waxes do different things like bring out flake pop, warm glows, added depth. Waxes I use Complete Auto Finesse range, Infinity Wax, Carspunk (yes that's correct) Valet Pro, Soft 99, Autobrite, Waxaddict to name a few. Set your self a budget and stick to it. Waxes can be an enjoyable money pit. Something from the Soft 99 range are a good start.

Don't forget to seal your alloy wheels to help keeping them in tip top condition. You can either use ceramic sealants like Gtechniq or Carbon Collection. Wheel waxes are also available like Poorboys Natty paste or Auto finesse Mint rims. Apply like a normal wax, allow to haze then buff off.

Dressing the plastics and tyres are next. Tyre wise I've used dozens over the years but have found Carbon Collective Sateen to be the best and actually lasts in our weather conditions. Again a little goes a long way. This product gives a satin finish however you can matte or high gloss gels.

Plastics - I use Valet Pro Black to the future which is correctly prepped lasts, again you can use "permanent" products such as Gtechniq and carbon collective.

Once a thorough detail has been carried out you can skip claying, decontamination, polishing and sealing but can top up your wax on regular maintenance washes.

I don't think I've missed anything but probably have but typing all this on my phone is hard work. Feel free to message me.

Hi - this is an AMAZING write up - I'm just about to start detailing my car following your instructions and was wondering do I do a foam was at the start AND after doing the claying part? Cheers!

Yeah, snow foam is your first step of cleaning a vehicle then snow foam or wash the car using soap again to remove any clay lube residue.
 
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