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[srhutch]

Nice colour best wheels and nice interior.

ADD says M.Seats .M Steering Wheel and M Suspension standard ?

Thought M.Suspension was only standard in 3.0 cars and seats were an extra in all models exept the M

These are standard items on Sport models which this is.

 

[PawnSacrifice]

Nice one Pete. Glad to see the search paid off - looks like a good car

 

[un1eash]

Looks nice, i was told if its a BMW AUC then the tyres have to be BMW approved which would mean they should be RFT's. Worth asking as you may get a full set of tyres out the deal.

 

[playalistic]

Looks nice, i was told if its a BMW AUC then the tyres have to be BMW approved which would mean they should be RFT's. Worth asking as you may get a full set of tyres out the deal.

Which you would then want to replace for non rft because they are naff?


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[gannet]

Looks nice, i was told if its a BMW AUC then the tyres have to be BMW approved which would mean they should be RFT's. Worth asking as you may get a full set of tyres out the deal.

Which you would then want to replace for non rft because they are naff?


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depends what make they put on - michelins are NOT naff

 

[playalistic]

Looks nice, i was told if its a BMW AUC then the tyres have to be BMW approved which would mean they should be RFT's. Worth asking as you may get a full set of tyres out the deal.

Which you would then want to replace for non rft because they are naff?


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depends what make they put on - michelins are NOT naff

I defy you to find a run-flat that is better than a conventional tyre. Remembering that we are all owners of sports cars

 

[un1eash]

But a full set of brand new 18" RFT's would be nice. The guy showed me a list of approved tyres when i got my Z4, he also told me of an X5 they recently sold and had to replace all 4 tyres as they were'nt on the list.

 

[ZermattV]

what to use as garden swings ?

 

[playalistic]

what to use as garden swings ?

monkey enclosure, London Zoo.

On a serious note though, there was another thread with a dispute over tyres on an AUC car. Obviously your dealer is more compliant

 

[PawnSacrifice]

To be fair I haven't driven Gannet's car, but he took me for a quick drive and the Michelins are very good indeed. The ride is so much more compliant than with the OEM rubbish. The main benefit was the firmer ride, I find the non-RFTs without any other changes to mushy (IMO!), the Michelins felt firm but not crashy or skittish. It felt similar to how mine does now with the poly bushes.

Depending on price I'll consider them when I next change my tyres.

Like I say, it needs to be driven, but I suspect (based on having Michelins on other cars) these are superior to budget non-RFTs although pound for pound you could probably get better premium tyres - in terms of outright grip. I do think that there is some justification in the RFT premium in that they seem to last longer.

petertodd24, if you can get Michelins out of them, definitely worth it IMO, even if there is a slight premium to upgrade

I defy you to find a run-flat that is better than a conventional tyre. Remembering that we are all owners of sports cars

If I had the option of getting a new set of Michelins thrown in, I'd take it every time.

 

[gannet]

and I'd be happy to take anyone for a quick drive too...

I was genuinely horrified by the Bridgestone's but when time came to replace I didn't want to sacrifice the practicality provided by the RFT in case of a puncture without having to think about tyre sealant (remember the sealant expires over time too)/space savers. I took a huge leap of faith to experiment with Michelin ZP PS2's.... one which I have NOT regretted. Everything that the Non-RFT guys (and I mean no dis-respect to peoples choice to do so) report as improved/resolved by switching to non-rft (such as improved ride, non-tramlining etc) holds true with the Michelin's - complete car transformation - even mrs gannet noticed just backing off the drive as a passenger

I'm now on my second set of rears after they lasted just over 17k miles versus the Bridgestones lasting just 12k so that justifies the premium to me. Front's still have about 5-6mm of tread left

 

[playalistic]

Edit: this was in response to pawnsacrifice, Gannets post slipped in before

It goes against all reasoning that a tyre with no (or very little) flex in the wall is better than a conventional tyre. Maybe I'm thick but I'd need this explained to me why somebody would choose rft tyres over conventional tyres for anything other than the "safety" aspect? Especially on the Z where it seems like the addition of rfts was a total afterthought given the suspension and damping setup.

 

[playalistic]

and I'd be happy to take anyone for a quick drive too...

I was genuinely horrified by the Bridgestone's but when time came to replace I didn't want to sacrifice the practicality provided by the RFT in case of a puncture without having to think about tyre sealant (remember the sealant expires over time too)/space savers. I took a huge leap of faith to experiment with Michelin ZP PS2's.... one which I have NOT regretted. Everything that the Non-RFT guys (and I mean no dis-respect to peoples choice to do so) report as improved/resolved by switching to non-rft (such as improved ride, non-tramlining etc) holds true with the Michelin's - complete car transformation - even mrs gannet noticed just backing off the drive as a passenger

I'm now on my second set of rears after they lasted just over 17k miles versus the Bridgestones lasting just 12k so that justifies the premium to me. Front's still have about 5-6mm of tread left

Maybe I'm blinkered as I tend to think of this from a purely performance aspect. Economy is somewhere down my list

Would be interested to have a passenger drive though

 

[gannet]

and I'd be happy to take anyone for a quick drive too...

I was genuinely horrified by the Bridgestone's but when time came to replace I didn't want to sacrifice the practicality provided by the RFT in case of a puncture without having to think about tyre sealant (remember the sealant expires over time too)/space savers. I took a huge leap of faith to experiment with Michelin ZP PS2's.... one which I have NOT regretted. Everything that the Non-RFT guys (and I mean no dis-respect to peoples choice to do so) report as improved/resolved by switching to non-rft (such as improved ride, non-tramlining etc) holds true with the Michelin's - complete car transformation - even mrs gannet noticed just backing off the drive as a passenger

I'm now on my second set of rears after they lasted just over 17k miles versus the Bridgestones lasting just 12k so that justifies the premium to me. Front's still have about 5-6mm of tread left

Maybe I'm blinkered as I tend to think of this from a purely performance aspect. Economy is somewhere down my list

Would be interested to have a passenger drive though

Economy is pretty low on my list as well - the extended life was a happy by product

you coming on the London meet next weekend? Happy to give you a ride then?

 

[playalistic]

and I'd be happy to take anyone for a quick drive too...

I was genuinely horrified by the Bridgestone's but when time came to replace I didn't want to sacrifice the practicality provided by the RFT in case of a puncture without having to think about tyre sealant (remember the sealant expires over time too)/space savers. I took a huge leap of faith to experiment with Michelin ZP PS2's.... one which I have NOT regretted. Everything that the Non-RFT guys (and I mean no dis-respect to peoples choice to do so) report as improved/resolved by switching to non-rft (such as improved ride, non-tramlining etc) holds true with the Michelin's - complete car transformation - even mrs gannet noticed just backing off the drive as a passenger

I'm now on my second set of rears after they lasted just over 17k miles versus the Bridgestones lasting just 12k so that justifies the premium to me. Front's still have about 5-6mm of tread left

Maybe I'm blinkered as I tend to think of this from a purely performance aspect. Economy is somewhere down my list

Would be interested to have a passenger drive though

Economy is pretty low on my list as well - the extended life was a happy by product

you coming on the London meet next weekend? Happy to give you a ride then?

Yep, might take you up on that cheers

 

[Zed_Steve]

Edit: this was in response to pawnsacrifice, Gannets post slipped in before

It goes against all reasoning that a tyre with no (or very little) flex in the wall is better than a conventional tyre. Maybe I'm thick but I'd need this explained to me why somebody would choose rft tyres over conventional tyres for anything other than the "safety" aspect? Especially on the Z where it seems like the addition of rfts was a total afterthought given the suspension and damping setup.

I see RFTs as more of a convenient thing, rather than safety imo. Otherwise why didnt BMW fit them on the M range.

 

[playalistic]

Edit: this was in response to pawnsacrifice, Gannets post slipped in before

It goes against all reasoning that a tyre with no (or very little) flex in the wall is better than a conventional tyre. Maybe I'm thick but I'd need this explained to me why somebody would choose rft tyres over conventional tyres for anything other than the "safety" aspect? Especially on the Z where it seems like the addition of rfts was a total afterthought given the suspension and damping setup.

I see RFTs as more of a convenient thing, rather than safety imo. Otherwise why didnt BMW fit them on the M range.

Because the M engineers know they're shite on a sports pedigree car.

 

[Boogle]

It goes against all reasoning that a tyre with no (or very little) flex in the wall is better than a conventional tyre. Maybe I'm thick but I'd need this explained to me why somebody would choose rft tyres over conventional tyres for anything other than the "safety" aspect? Especially on the Z where it seems like the addition of rfts was a total afterthought given the suspension and damping setup.

Depends on the structure of the tyre itself. What you can have is a series of blocks in the sidewall that only come (and lock) together when the tyre pressure is sufficiently low. This way it'll behave much like a 'normal' tyre until the air has gone.

 

[srhutch]

Nice one Pete. Glad to see the search paid off - looks like a good car

Not as nice as the other one he enquired about though and makes the other one look cheap to. :wink:

 

[sp3ctre]

Nice one Pete. Glad to see the search paid off - looks like a good car

Not as nice as the other one he enquired about though and makes the other one look cheap to. :wink:

Really? That "other car" must have been awesome, eh?