Daily drives

[Fred Smith]

You have certainly had your moneys worth out of the Lancer. My wife would much prefer me to adopt a similar strategy as your’s.

I have. I am looking for its replacement, I want nicer... but part of me wants to see if I can get another ten years out of it!

I've always done what was needed, and spent money... but never gone further... I've started to be a bit better but for most of the time I've owned it I've probably washed it annually at best, never been garaged or polished! 10 years of kinda running it into the ground, next 10 it might get TLC.

We don't go out as a family in it that often... but my other half would prefer me to upgrade to something a bit more comfortable. I'd like her to swap her Fiesta for something better, but it's a 12 year old car on 18k miles and it's been in the family since new so we can't get rid of that one either!

 

[IRD]

A careful man! I have had close to 80 cars over the years and I’m not getting better as the years go by either.

 

[Pondy]

I am looking for its replacement, I want nicer...

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148997

Just saying! This would last you forever.

 

[IRD]

Bought my Z4 from Pondrew and have been delighted with it. He chooses his cars carefully so they are a good buy when he sells them on. Which he does frequently. By the time he is my age I’m sure he will have owned more cars than me.

 

[Pondy]

By the time he is my age I’m sure he will have owned more cars than me.

I've had loads more than 80 already Ian! :lol:

 

[Fred Smith]

I am looking for its replacement, I want nicer...

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148997

Just saying! This would last you forever.

I don't buy nearly new cars and I try to avoid silver, white and red cars! Looks lovely, but there is no way I am more than doubling the total amount I have spent on buying cars on one car! I haven't yet hit the £10k mark on my first 7 cars, not letting the 8th take me to £20k!

 

[Pondy]

I don't buy nearly new cars

8 years old is hardly 'nearly new'. :roll:

 

[Fred Smith]

Unread post by Pondrew » 21 Oct 2024, 11:12

Fred Smith wrote: ↑

20 years ago I would have made you right... you could buy a 6 year old car for a decent price, nowadays everything under 12 years old is priced like a new car (five figures).

 

[Fred Smith]

I don't buy nearly new cars

8 years old is hardly 'nearly new'. :roll:

If you buy a car expecting it to depreciate it is nearly new. Proper used cars barely depreciate ;-)

 

[Pondy]

20 years ago I would have made you right... you could buy a 6 year old car for a decent price, nowadays everything under 12 years old is priced like a new car (five figures).

Yes, I know. But then an average new car is not £10k anymore. More like £30k and up. Or a fairly average EV is £60k plus.

My new car is a bog standard average Audi A4 estate; list price is £45k!
Not buying it, though. Just 'borrowing' it for 2 years and paying them rent.

 

[Fred Smith]

20 years ago I would have made you right... you could buy a 6 year old car for a decent price, nowadays everything under 12 years old is priced like a new car (five figures).

Yes, I know. But then an average new car is not £10k anymore. More like £30k and up. Or a fairly average EV is £60k plus.

My new car is a bog standard average Audi A4 estate; list price is £45k!
Not buying it, though. Just 'borrowing' it for 2 years and paying them rent.

I am very fortunate in that we can do my job, school and shopping using our legs and good public transport. Driving is for seeing family, social lives, convenience. Having 2 (or 3 as it is now) cars means none need to be reliable because even if they all brake down we can still do the essentials, and realistically we'll be very unlucky to have more than one broken at a time! Given all of this I don't need a nice new car like some people do (if you both need cars for work and do a lot of miles then I can see why you need to get something fairly modern.)

My next car will likely be £3k to £5k, maybe under £2k!

The other thing is that there is only one real luxury in life - the freedom not to work. Borrowing money on consumer items sets you back on attaining the one luxury worth having!

 

[Pondy]

I am very fortunate in that we can do my job, school and shopping using our legs and good public transport. Driving is for seeing family, social lives, convenience. Having 2 (or 3 as it is now) cars means none need to be reliable because even if they all brake down we can still do the essentials, and realistically we'll be very unlucky to have more than one broken at a time! Given all of this I don't need a nice new car like some people do (if you both need cars for work and do a lot of miles then I can see why you need to get something fairly modern.)

My next car will likely be £3k to £5k, maybe under £2k!

The other thing is that there is only one real luxury in life - the freedom not to work. Borrowing money on consumer items sets you back on attaining the one luxury worth having!

You are aware, I presume, that this is a 'car forum', generally frequented by 'car enthusiasts' and 'petrolheads'?

The words 'need' and 'essential' are not generally those associated with the above IME.

Sounds like you would be better off at the 'money saving expert' forum. :lol: :wink:

 

[pvr]

I "need" another M, but am waiting for the owners to realise the true value :lol:

 

[IRD]

I am very fortunate in that we can do my job, school and shopping using our legs and good public transport. Driving is for seeing family, social lives, convenience. Having 2 (or 3 as it is now) cars means none need to be reliable because even if they all brake down we can still do the essentials, and realistically we'll be very unlucky to have more than one broken at a time! Given all of this I don't need a nice new car like some people do (if you both need cars for work and do a lot of miles then I can see why you need to get something fairly modern.)

My next car will likely be £3k to £5k, maybe under £2k!

The other thing is that there is only one real luxury in life - the freedom not to work. Borrowing money on consumer items sets you back on attaining the one luxury worth having!

You are aware, I presume, that this is a 'car forum', generally frequented by 'car enthusiasts' and 'petrolheads'?

The words 'need' and 'essential' are not generally those associated with the above IME.

Sounds like you would be better off at the 'money saving expert' forum. :lol: :wink:

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I wish I could persuade myself to have an outlook like Fred’s re: cars. My bank balance would be considerably higher if I had approached his car buying philosophy over the years. As would yours have been if you had done likewise. Then I think of all the fun and pleasure I have had buying and selling cars and I wouldn’t really change anything. Mind you Angela would.

 

[Pondy]

I wish I could persuade myself to have an outlook like Fred’s re: cars. My bank balance would be considerably higher if I had approached his car buying philosophy over the years. As would yours have been if you had done likewise. Then I think of all the fun and pleasure I have had buying and selling cars and I wouldn’t really change anything. Mind you Angela would.

No good having millions in the bank and nothing to spend it on, though, Ian.

I always remember my sister saying "you spend loads on cars. I have had my X5 for 15 years and it doesn't cost me anything".

When I took her to task on her 'free to own' knackered old X5, she forgot the constant £500 bills for something going wrong every week; the fact it did about 25mpg (as it was a 200k miles knackered diesel). By the time she finally got rid of it, hardly anything worked in the car and it looked like a bag of shite (cos it was). But according to her it was cheap motoring.

The irony was she lives in a beautiful million pound plus house, and was driving around in a bag of nails worth about a quid for years.

 

[pvr]

Cars is like art work to me. I don't want a 50k painting in my house when I can look at a car in my garage instead :lol:

 

[Fred Smith]

"Then I think of all the fun and pleasure I have had buying and selling cars and I wouldn’t really change anything." Could you have had similar fun buying budget quirky cars?

And cheap motoring... it can be expensive running a cheap motor! I get your point. My Mitsubishi has had a fair bit spent in the last 18 months or so, but then again half of that was tyres, the other half was (IIRC) discs, pads and similar, and if I had a nice car I might have spent the same on four tyres as I did on four tyres and a load of other things.

My priorities are living the life I wanna live and being able to retire as early as possible (I may never retire, but I want to be in a position where work is a choice)... cheap cars are part of how I plan on getting there. Freedom, a nice pint of beer, a good meal, great music... that's what life's about more so than how nice and modern your car is!

If I was a bit older and mortgage free as a result, or needed a very reliable car, I would have a much nicer one.

 

[Pondy]

If I was a bit older and mortgage free as a result, or needed a very reliable car, I would have a much nicer one.

You should get friendly with Paul (PVR). He's absolutely loaded. :lol:

 

[Fred Smith]

If I was a bit older and mortgage free as a result, or needed a very reliable car, I would have a much nicer one.

You should get friendly with Paul (PVR). He's absolutely loaded. :lol:

Is he looking to adopt? My dad's still about but that situation is flexible if Paul's up for it.

 

[pvr]

If I was a bit older and mortgage free as a result, or needed a very reliable car, I would have a much nicer one.

You should get friendly with Paul (PVR). He's absolutely loaded. :lol:

Is he looking to adopt? My dad's still about but that situation is flexible if Paul's up for it.

Can you adopt a person older than yourself? Although in 2024 I am sure that is another 'ism' :lol: