ihadablackdog
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....and let’s not forget stopping at red lights!
Cyclists can f*ck off. More Clarkson rantings :D
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Silverstar said:
It's called Vehicle Excise Duty in the UK and is payable (generally, certain exceptions granted) based on the amount of air-carried pollution that your vehicle kicks out. Whilst you might consider cyclists themselves as pollution and still maintain that they should pay the same as everyone else, I'm not sure everyone would agree.
Of course bikes will hit cars occasionally and it is unfortunate when it happens, especially to your car. Most sensible cyclists have insurance; I certainly do, its just common sense in my view.
Clarkson, whilst previously occasionally amusing, is now old news/fake news and a bell end all rolled into one - albeit a very well off one.
Stevo
opinions are like arseholes - everybody has one, he speaks very highly of you too - at the end of the day its simply jealously, people will pay for his opinions while nobody wants yours and that niggles you. nothing he does or say in his life will ever affect you in any way, your unlikely to ever meet him in the same way i won't either, There are millions of people who like him including myself, because i get him, he doesn't pretend to be an expert but plays the buffoon, but he is clever and funny and if you take everything he says with a pinch of salt and realise he is simply entertainment and not take him seriously you might get it too . Live and let live eh.stevo///m3 said:
the insurance companies must be spitting blood about not being able to bleed kids of their pocket money and their parents.john-e89 said:
Silly comment about cyclists paying insurance to use the roads imho, where do you draw the line? Mums with pushchairs walking down a village road with no pavements carelessly catching a parked car with the buggy, should they pay? Kids on bikes, scooters, walkers with rucksacks...etc, etc,...it’s part of life I’m afraid that some folk don’t pay attention at times, you just have to suck it up and not let it ruin your week.
ihadablackdog said:
The chap that crashed into my car wasn't wearing a helmet. He and his bike went flying in the air. He was extremely lucky not to have more serious injuries than he did.
Helmets are mandatory here, but as with most things in life, if people don't like the idea they simply ignore it, and the police have better things to do than prosecute every cyclist not wearing a helmet. There's also a backlash against it with some saying it has put people off riding (thus getting them into cars and worsening congestion, pollution etc) because they don't want a helmet ruining their hairstyle ffs... I see them riding with a helmet dangling from the handlebars, so at least the handlebars will be safe when they go arse over kite in an accident.
These are probably the same type of people who argue that seatbelt wearing should not be mandatory because they know a guy who had a mate whose brother was in an accident, wasn't wearing a seatbelt and got thrown clear of the wreck, avoiding the fire that followed.
I seriously doubt that if they change the law tomorrow to make it legal to ride without a helmet that there will be a sudden increase of cyclists; people just don't like being told what to do - human nature
These are probably the same type of people who argue that seatbelt wearing should not be mandatory because they know a guy who had a mate whose brother was in an accident, wasn't wearing a seatbelt and got thrown clear of the wreck, avoiding the fire that followed.
I seriously doubt that if they change the law tomorrow to make it legal to ride without a helmet that there will be a sudden increase of cyclists; people just don't like being told what to do - human nature
##road warrior said:
How helpful pal...
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You're clearly aware of the rules of the road
Other than that, can't seem to fault your logic - why not follow the great buffoon?
Unbeknown to me, somebody could have told me the rules right from the start, and those of YT videos, who'd have known?
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Unless I pay my dues to Clarkson, I'm in the wrong...
That's something I didn't know...thank you for correcting me
There's always something you learn and every day's a school day eh?
Every time I ride my bike I'll be wary of motorists who support Clarkson, thanks for the warning...
Really freakin' wary...
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Can bikes and cars not live on the road together in harmony?
Unfortunately this seems to be your view, although you wrap it up in Clarkson-ness
Not to worry, I'll keep safe on the road, thanks for clearing that up - the risks I mean
Those roads you drive on, those are the ones I'll avoid
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I never knew Clarkson acted a bit buffoon-y to get people attracted to his media - are you sure that's right? Struggle to believe he might have made some money that way, that can't be right can it?
BTW, its *you're* when its non-possessive.
Still think users should get along on the road together without being #nobheads
Stevo
Agree about the insurance and I also think that cyclist should not be allowed on the road where there is a cycle path provided. Yet again I see cycle paths which have been constructed at huge cost to the tax payer and some idiot still holding the traffic up by not using it.
Had one yesterday on the way to the AV8 meet. On A40, the Witney side of Oxford, a dedicated bike lane and the road where it narrows toward T lights. A few other cyclists on the bike lane , but one prat who was obviously above the normal cyclists and stayed on the narrow lane...slowing the traffic.
No need for it, just being a c#nt
, but one prat who was obviously above the normal cyclists and stayed on the narrow lane...slowing the traffic. No need for it, just being a c#nt
Blimey, is this thread still going!?
Well, I discovered the solution to the great cyclist vs. motorist debate recently; gravelriding.
Yep, gravelriding; the perfect solution to isolate one from the other as fas as is physically possible.
While I was out on a ride with my good ladyfriend Laura recently she commented, or rather suggested that we should try and plan routes with as little interaction with traffic and other cyclists as possible. What a good idea!
It’s actually surprisingly easy, at least here in NL to plan a route that avoids both major roads and the established bikelane network. Komoot has a ‘gravelride’ option when planning routes which usually takes you literally ‘off the beaten track’ so to speak, usually taking you down accessible dirt tracks and the edges of farmers fields etc. If you have an MTB it’s perfect and do-able.
So we recently managed to do a 50km in the lovely Veluwe and literally saw NO-ONE on our route barring a few individuals at crossing points, oh and a few wild pigs in the woods
It was blissful. No geriatrics on e-bikes whizzing past you on their nuclear-powered shopper bikes, no angry motorists, no dogwalkers with totally oblivious shitzus begging to be flattened/minced, no neanderthal pedestrians walking straight out in front of you while they’re on the phone discussing the daily b0llocks with the bff. Bliss.
If only every ride was this good. But it isn’t and never will be.
Well, I discovered the solution to the great cyclist vs. motorist debate recently; gravelriding.
Yep, gravelriding; the perfect solution to isolate one from the other as fas as is physically possible.
While I was out on a ride with my good ladyfriend Laura recently she commented, or rather suggested that we should try and plan routes with as little interaction with traffic and other cyclists as possible. What a good idea!
It’s actually surprisingly easy, at least here in NL to plan a route that avoids both major roads and the established bikelane network. Komoot has a ‘gravelride’ option when planning routes which usually takes you literally ‘off the beaten track’ so to speak, usually taking you down accessible dirt tracks and the edges of farmers fields etc. If you have an MTB it’s perfect and do-able.
So we recently managed to do a 50km in the lovely Veluwe and literally saw NO-ONE on our route barring a few individuals at crossing points, oh and a few wild pigs in the woods
It was blissful. No geriatrics on e-bikes whizzing past you on their nuclear-powered shopper bikes, no angry motorists, no dogwalkers with totally oblivious shitzus begging to be flattened/minced, no neanderthal pedestrians walking straight out in front of you while they’re on the phone discussing the daily b0llocks with the bff. Bliss.
If only every ride was this good. But it isn’t and never will be.
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It’s a fair point Rdgreen.
While I wouldn’t do this in a built up area in road traffic, we were in the woods with no-one else in sight and it was a dirt track only for use by cyclists and walkers.
It’s actually an offense to handle your mobile while on a bike over here with a potential fine of €95 but I still see many people, especially kids, winding all over the roads, heads down, airpods in, ‘doin mah soshal media innit’. They’re the ones who will hopefully get a painful and/ or expensive wakeup call one day. :evil:
I couldn’t actually clarify if the rule applies when biking out in the woods but I presume in the unlikely event of encountering plod then it would probably incur a warning rather than a fine.
While I wouldn’t do this in a built up area in road traffic, we were in the woods with no-one else in sight and it was a dirt track only for use by cyclists and walkers.
It’s actually an offense to handle your mobile while on a bike over here with a potential fine of €95 but I still see many people, especially kids, winding all over the roads, heads down, airpods in, ‘doin mah soshal media innit’. They’re the ones who will hopefully get a painful and/ or expensive wakeup call one day. :evil:
I couldn’t actually clarify if the rule applies when biking out in the woods but I presume in the unlikely event of encountering plod then it would probably incur a warning rather than a fine.
Hope I didn't offend you Chris. The photo was obviously on a dirt road but our coppers are only too swift to hand out expiation's for the most minor infractions, no matter where, unless on private land. Same rules apply here regarding touching your mobile phone...I was pointing out the irony of the possibility of losing your car licence for a bicycle offence....but still able to ride your bike regardless. Same thing with a horse. You can lose your drivers licence for being drunk/using a phone on a horse...but you can still ride your horse because you don't need a licence. Some times the law is literally a horses arse. 
With you on the eyes on the phone mob. This picture is from a few years ago and shows what can happen when the driver behind decides that texting is more important than watching where you are going. By the way the driver wasn't a youngster.....55 years old.
With you on the eyes on the phone mob. This picture is from a few years ago and shows what can happen when the driver behind decides that texting is more important than watching where you are going. By the way the driver wasn't a youngster.....55 years old.
