CSL reps on Ebay

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What do you guys think of these? Been thinking of getting some CSL's for the summer.
I guess these are reps but I'm not too bothered by weight.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/19-CSL-ALLOY-WHEELS-BMW-Z4-SERIES-E85-TYRES_W0QQitemZ350161466575QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET?hash=item350161466575&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
 
The wheels look fine - and I'd guess without tyres you could get them for £500.

You'll either have to buy them without tyres and then put your preferred tyre brand on, or you'll have to make do with their budget 'performance' tyres or pay £80 extra for premium 'performance' Avon ZZ3s :thumbsdown:

Take note that the 235/265 tyres do not project out from the rim enough (even with tyres with rim protectors) to protect the tyre from light kerbing - you may be luckier than me, but I had all 4 CSLs refurbed within a week of getting my car, but have not had one mark on my standard wheels in 4 weeks since I replaced them.
 
i think they are awesome looking wheels, would look great on the coupe, not sure about the roadster.
 
mmm-five said:
Take note that the 235/265 tyres do not project out from the rim enough (even with tyres with rim protectors) to protect the tyre from light kerbing - you may be luckier than me, but I had all 4 CSLs refurbed within a week of getting my car, but have not had one mark on my standard wheels in 4 weeks since I replaced them.
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You need some curb mirrors on your Z4! :P
 
Breaker said:
mmm-five said:
Take note that the 235/265 tyres do not project out from the rim enough (even with tyres with rim protectors) to protect the tyre from light kerbing - you may be luckier than me, but I had all 4 CSLs refurbed within a week of getting my car, but have not had one mark on my standard wheels in 4 weeks since I replaced them.
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You need some curb mirrors on your Z4! :P
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Nah, I'm just a bad driver :oops:
 
I always see posts regarding rep alloys being heavy, can you actually notice in the steering ?......given that the Z4 doesnt actually ride perfect anyway, surely it has to be better than having runflats ?......
 
easty027 said:
I always see posts regarding rep alloys being heavy, can you actually notice in the steering ?......given that the Z4 doesnt actually ride perfect anyway, surely it has to be better than having runflats ?......
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read this :thumbsup: :
The sprung weight of a wheel controls a trade-off between a wheel's bump-following ability and its vibration isolation. Bumps and surface imperfections in the road cause tire compression--which induces a force on the unsprung weight. In time, the unsprung weight then responds to this force with movement of its own. The amount of movement is inversely proportional to the weight - a lighter wheel which readily moves in response to road bumps will have more grip when tracking over an imperfect road. For this reason, lighter wheels are often sought for high-performance applications. In contrast, a heavier wheel which moves less will not absorb as much vibration; the irregularities of the road surface will transfer to the cabin through the geometry of the suspension and hence ride quality is deteriorated.
 
I bought a set of these but had to return them. The rear offset of 27 is far to much and the wheel stuck out past the wing.
 
rob davey said:
easty027 said:
I always see posts regarding rep alloys being heavy, can you actually notice in the steering ?......given that the Z4 doesnt actually ride perfect anyway, surely it has to be better than having runflats ?......
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read this :thumbsup: :
The sprung weight of a wheel controls a trade-off between a wheel's bump-following ability and its vibration isolation. Bumps and surface imperfections in the road cause tire compression--which induces a force on the unsprung weight. In time, the unsprung weight then responds to this force with movement of its own. The amount of movement is inversely proportional to the weight - a lighter wheel which readily moves in response to road bumps will have more grip when tracking over an imperfect road. For this reason, lighter wheels are often sought for high-performance applications. In contrast, a heavier wheel which moves less will not absorb as much vibration; the irregularities of the road surface will transfer to the cabin through the geometry of the suspension and hence ride quality is deteriorated.
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As i said, unless you are a professor of engineering, can you actually tell ?
 
De4n said:
I bought a set of these but had to return them. The rear offset of 27 is far to much and the wheel stuck out past the wing.
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Your Z4 looks awesome !
 
The wheels on ebay are listed as Z4 fitment so be careful. In the end I bought a wheel with 45mm offset not 27mm.
 
easty027 said:
rob davey said:
easty027 said:
I always see posts regarding rep alloys being heavy, can you actually notice in the steering ?......given that the Z4 doesnt actually ride perfect anyway, surely it has to be better than having runflats ?......
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read this :thumbsup: :
The sprung weight of a wheel controls a trade-off between a wheel's bump-following ability and its vibration isolation. Bumps and surface imperfections in the road cause tire compression--which induces a force on the unsprung weight. In time, the unsprung weight then responds to this force with movement of its own. The amount of movement is inversely proportional to the weight - a lighter wheel which readily moves in response to road bumps will have more grip when tracking over an imperfect road. For this reason, lighter wheels are often sought for high-performance applications. In contrast, a heavier wheel which moves less will not absorb as much vibration; the irregularities of the road surface will transfer to the cabin through the geometry of the suspension and hence ride quality is deteriorated.
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As i said, unless you are a professor of engineering, can you actually tell ?
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:D fair enough
 
De4n said:
The wheels on ebay are listed as Z4 fitment so be careful. In the end I bought a wheel with 45mm offset not 27mm.
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Dean, are your wheels staggered fit or the same width all round?

Surprising as I was under the impression those wheels were the same brand as sold by velocity motoring in the US. Those wheels fit the E46 no problems.
 
Thanks for sharing De4n! Where were yours from? They look great btw but it does look like they stick out at the back now I look...

Are they 19s?
 
Yes they are staggered 19s (8.5, 9.5) . The wheels are Veloce and are a very good replica from M Style or CA Automotive. They don't stick out at all,and there's no rubbing.

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If you want my honest advice, don't bother with the velocity motoring 19" CSL reps. You get what you pay for. Despite the manufacturer's claim that the wheels weigh 25lbs, everyone (including myself) who has ever bothered to weigh the wheels consistently got 28lbs~31lbs, and the manufacturer never dares to respond when people call them out for lying about the wheel weight. I had the 19" reps on my M for a few weeks and absolutely hated them every minute they were on the car. Acceleration got worse, but more importantly the car became a lot less nimble - I felt like I was driving a boat that didn't want to turn. I'd spend more and get higher quality, light-weight 19" wheels (or even 18") than wasting money on the CSL reps.
 
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