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ben g said:
2 different products Ben , SRP is a cleaner or remover of whatever is already on the car so could be used first .
Topaz is a blend of many things that remain undisclosed by its maker but its the opposite of AG SRP in that it adds shine & protection plus it can be layered so the more you apply the deeper the finish
Its a great product if you already have decent paintwork
Link here to when i first tried it
http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=77566
It was my understanding that Topaz wasn't a filler type polish? Sure I read that somewhere.
It leaves no residue on trim/glass etc, whereas the SRP does, possibly the "fillers?"
Mike
It leaves no residue on trim/glass etc, whereas the SRP does, possibly the "fillers?"
Mike
Marlon said:
Wait for car to be fully dry after washing then i would use a small sponge pad to apply , minimum amount spread thinly , leave to fully dry before buffing off with soft dry cloth , from my experience Topaz isn't a product that needs a machine to get good results
Interesting that the products are rated. Their head office and distribution centre is on the opposite side of my village and always full of trucks refilling with products, training newbies, etc.
Core business is franchised 1 man with a truck business and selling products to traders, so I'm surprised the products are any good compared to the specialists manufacturers
Value and volume of product over quality is my perception
Core business is franchised 1 man with a truck business and selling products to traders, so I'm surprised the products are any good compared to the specialists manufacturers
Value and volume of product over quality is my perception
cj10jeeper said:
Tbf they don't claim to have split the atom with Topaz
its simply another product in a swollen sea of alternatives ( some cheaper but majority more expensive ) Predominantly supplying the car valeting / car sales trade ( not specialist detailers ) & by all accounts + reviews online their products do what they say & from my own experience found the Topaz simple to apply , simple to remove ,left a deep glossy shine & was extremely durable , factor in you get twice as much in volume to any similar product available on the high street & you can see why its popular
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iev96FqQa9A
Likewise, I've also found Topaz to be very good, and easy to apply - especially compared to SRP which can be a bitch to buff off!
Plus, at the £11 or so I paid for a litre, it's excellent value.
Mike
Plus, at the £11 or so I paid for a litre, it's excellent value.
Mike
I worked in valeting/detailing/PDI for some 20 years from 1985 to 2005, both self-employed and and the last 11 years as departmental manager for Halliwell Jones, Warrington. During this time the Autosmart brand and products were regarded as 'cheap and cheerful' and performed well for the price but were nothing exceptional. We used to buy most of our bulk chemicals such as TFR from Autosmart and/or a local supplier and most of our sundry items such as polish, wax and dressings etc were from the local Autoglym franchise dealer because they were just better performing with consistently better results. These days in my opinion most of the best performing products originate from the USA, perhaps not the cheapest but definitely some of the best...Poorboys World, Chemical Guys etc.
Anyway, Autosmart Topaz ? If you like it then go with it....just top it off with some Collinite 845 !
Anyway, Autosmart Topaz ? If you like it then go with it....just top it off with some Collinite 845 !
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mr wilks said:ben g said:
2 different products Ben , SRP is a cleaner or remover of whatever is already on the car so could be used first .
Topaz is a blend of many things that remain undisclosed by its maker but its the opposite of AG SRP in that it adds shine & protection plus it can be layered so the more you apply the deeper the finish
Its a great product if you already have decent paintwork
Link here to when i first tried it
http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=77566
Not quite, Andy - SRP is an All In One (AIO). It has the tiniest amount of cut from abrasives, it fills well and those oils will thus add a small amount of protection (2-4 weeks depending on weather and washing). Topaz does exactly the same thing, but with optical polymers, hence the shine and increasing effect. It will not add anything like the protection of a sealant or wax, so would have to be topped... but again, life of a wax/sealant is subject to the base.
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Ducklakeview said:
Highly likely to be the older version, Mike - new formula SRP is easy (wax!) on, easy (wax!) off.
General consensus and patriots views then lead me to believe my 'Volume and value over quality' comment is probably correct, so I will continue to pass them by and stick with more expensive big brand names
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mr wilks said:
Brilliant stuff. The best AIO in my honest opinion. Great for those without the time, ability or inclination to spend on correction and application of semi-perm sealants.
JAD said:mr wilks said:
Brilliant stuff. The best AIO in my honest opinion. Great for those without the time, ability or inclination to spend on correction and application of semi-perm sealants.
Good stuff indeed but when I tried some last week after receiving as a Xmas gift & found it virtually identical in colour , smell , application ( on & off ) & end finish to Topaz
slightly thicker if anything but that could have been the cold temp , , i seriously doubt anyone other than a expert in them both would be able to spot the difference if containers were without label £30 for 1 litre Topaz as opposed to £11AF with virtually no difference :?
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mr wilks said:JAD said:mr wilks said:
Brilliant stuff. The best AIO in my honest opinion. Great for those without the time, ability or inclination to spend on correction and application of semi-perm sealants.
Good stuff indeed but when I tried some last week after receiving as a Xmas gift & found it virtually identical in colour , smell , application ( on & off ) & end finish to Topaz
£30 for 1 litre Topaz as opposed to £11AF with virtually no difference :?
The thing I love about detailing is how subjective and personal it is. I tried Topaz after your thread and thought it was perfectly OK for the "Halfrauds" Joe Public. But felt AF3 for ease of application was better on and off. Horses for courses, willing to bet ours look far better than 99% of cars on the road!
JAD said:mr wilks said:JAD said:Brilliant stuff. The best AIO in my honest opinion. Great for those without the time, ability or inclination to spend on correction and application of semi-perm sealants.
Good stuff indeed but when I tried some last week after receiving as a Xmas gift & found it virtually identical in colour , smell , application ( on & off ) & end finish to Topaz
£30 for 1 litre Topaz as opposed to £11AF with virtually no difference :?
The thing I love about detailing is how subjective and personal it is. I tried Topaz after your thread and thought it was perfectly OK for the "Halfrauds" Joe Public. But felt AF3 for ease of application was better on and off. Horses for courses, willing to bet ours look far better than 99% of cars on the road!
Yea totally agree we all have our favourites & what ive found myself is no one brand does it all the best :?
After finding 50cal glaze was terrific stuff i bought their QD spray & also their Penta wax only to find that Fusso Soft 99 is way better than the Penta & that AutoFinesse glisten QD is by far the best quick topping spray waxes ive tried
Also that Collinite 845 is hard to beat for the money but then ive never paid more than £20 per product & do appreciate there could be better products available