Contravention Code 27

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cj10jeeper

Lifer
 Lichfield, England
Damn - caught by a near entrapment last night.

Rushing to park I joined into the middle of a row of diagonally parked cars, against the kerb. Quick check and no lines, notice boards, restrictions, so good to go. 10 mins later £70 ticket for a code 27 neatly stuck to my screen.

Hadn't seen that spanning about 15', the kerb was dropped. No access to any house, not a driveway, but in theory a place where pedestrians could cross.

Learn from my stupid error :headbang:
 
AFAIK, the UK doesn't have any any legislation against entrapment anyway, so a copper could offer to sell you drugs and then arrest you when you accept :thumbsdown:

If you're interested in contesting the validity of this, then there's a forum post elsewhere that might help.

BTW to anyone who's been given a bus-lane ticket: do a simple check before you pay. If the sign has no times on it, and doesn't say 'at all times', then it's unenforceable and you can contest it. But as it's only cash & no points, it might not be worth your time.
 
It seems Code 27 is for parking "in the vicinity of"* a dropped kerb; the type with the knobbly concrete slabs for blind people.....new one on me and a bit bloody sneaky, you think they'd just yellow line it - but oh no,that might give us a chance to obey the law and deny them a collar...
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* whatever that means.....
 
No knobbly bits afaik but then again there was snow and ice.

Not contesting it, but you'd think common sense would dictate putting a couple of lines and a board, but hell they'd never get the revenue from it.

Shame that it's not a 'fair cop' for causing some proper obstruction, but I'll just pay half rate in 14 days and move on.

Meanwhile Pikey's stole all the radiators from my neighbours house that's being refurbished, neatly lined up at the side of the house and the police can't do anything 'cos they just claim they were collecting scrap and thought it was 'OK' :headbang:
 
Wondermike said:
£70 seems a bit disproportional - ouch :o
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+1

Had a run in with a private firm, they are much easier to deal with against breach of contract, than the appeal procedure of a county council
 
Not even going to waster my time. I'm guilty as charged. My point was more as a cuation that it's easy to get caught by this little 'trick'.

I'll pay in 14 days and reduce it to £35.
 
Don't forget that it is business tax deductable, so at 40% it is even less.
 
cj10jeeper said:
Not even going to waster my time. I'm guilty as charged. My point was more as a cuation that it's easy to get caught by this little 'trick'.

I'll pay in 14 days and reduce it to £35.
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You're only guilty if you've parked where you shouldn't. If they got the signage wrong, then there is no offence to be guilty of.

I'm guessing it's a council/private ticket, rather than a police one, as the councils are counting on people just paying up to avoid the fuss, when they know they're giving out loads of tickets without the legislation/licence to back it up.

It's no different from you getting a ticket for doing 70mph in a temporary 40mph zone, when there's no sign or current traffic order stating 40mph.

If they're practicing zero tolerance on offences, then they should also be practicing zero tolerance on their licences/signage.

"Power to the people!"
- Wolfie Smith, 1977 :P
 
mmm-five said:
cj10jeeper said:
Not even going to waster my time. I'm guilty as charged. My point was more as a cuation that it's easy to get caught by this little 'trick'.

I'll pay in 14 days and reduce it to £35.
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You're only guilty if you've parked where you shouldn't. If they got the signage wrong, then there is no offence to be guilty of.
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Seen a couple of threads on this elsewhere, apparently the signage thing is not mandatory....bit like 30mph speed limit doesn't always need to be marked in urban areas.....but still a sneaky one.
 
Yes Birmingham City Council so not 'real' police....lol

I don't beleive any sinage is required. I was supposed to be aware of the 'dropped kerb' rule. 24 hours after the fact it does sound vaguely familiar, however a quick scan of Google shows it's a growing new 'trick' especially amongst some councils.

Wolfie Smith or not, I'm not fighting or contesting it. Rather just posting a warning so other can benefit from my expense.
 
cj10jeeper said:
I don't beleive any sinage is required. I was supposed to be aware of the 'dropped kerb' rule. 24 hours after the fact it does sound vaguely familiar, however a quick scan of Google shows it's a growing new 'trick' especially amongst some councils.
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The post I linked to earlier, shows that it's not just about signage, and if it was a ticket from a PC then you'd have a ticket under the Road Traffic Act whether there are signs or not (and London, but more about that below).

The legislation was brought in for London (and London alone) to enforce its own area and other councils have decided that they can copy where London leads. The big BUT, is that the legislation only gives (by name) London the right to have this no sign exemption, so that any other council that's running it's own enforcement does not have this exemption. Therefore they have 'enforcement officers' who are ticketing, when they have no licence to.

I agree that it's not worth the time fighting it—and I'm sure the price is set at this amount to garner just this apathetic response—but I thought I'd point it out for people who do want to
 
Sorry to hear about the ticket but as an add on here is a list of do's & don'ts taken fron the highway code. The one that really gets me wound up is the one about parking near junction, as we have a health centre at the bottom of our road that everyone blocks the junction because they are too lazy to park in ther carpark and walk the extra 10 feet.

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DO NOT stop or park

•near a school entrance
•anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
•at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank
•on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing
•opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
•near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
•opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
•where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
•where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles
•in front of an entrance to a property
•on a bend
•where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities
except when forced to do so by stationary traffic.

Hope this helps anyone else getting a ticket.
 
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