Continental Sports contact 7’s

kozak_z4 said:
I also have Continental Sportcontact 7 and 641m in my z4. I went with 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 which seemed to be the best choice based on data from willtheyfit. I recommend this combo, these rims look amazing on e89.


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You can't beat car forums for lining the pockets of tyre manufacturers! :lol:
"influencers" get paid a lot of money these days on social media, yet car forum people do it for free!
Seems like only yesterday that the Michelin MPS4s was the best tyre in the world bar none. Oh hang on it WAS yesterday!

Then we had the Conti CS6. Brilliant tyre. But that's now SOOOO last week, the Conti SC7 is much better!

I never realised that the average car forum person was a professional racing driver. If not, many have missed their calling in life! :poke:

I bought some Roadstones yesterday. Never heard of the make but they were £67 a corner and seem fine! :rofl:

Tyre snobbery is making people a lot of money and costing others more.
 
Pondrew said:
You can't beat car forums for lining the pockets of tyre manufacturers! :lol:
"influencers" get paid a lot of money these days on social media, yet car forum people do it for free!
Seems like only yesterday that the Michelin MPS4s was the best tyre in the world bar none. Oh hang on it WAS yesterday!

Then we had the Conti CS6. Brilliant tyre. But that's now SOOOO last week, the Conti SC7 is much better!

I never realised that the average car forum person was a professional racing driver. If not, many have missed their calling in life! :poke:

I bought some Roadstones yesterday. Never heard of the make but they were £67 a corner and seem fine! :rofl:

Tyre snobbery is making others lot of money and costing others more.

Seems you are missing a point of view held by some people on this forum?

You don’t need perfect hearing to appreciate great music delivered through a well developed sound system

You don’t need perfect eye sight to enjoy a great program delivered on a large screen UHD TV

Similarly you don’t need to be The Stig to appreciate great feedback, assured handling and comfort delivered by the latest premium tyres..The E89 as a chassis responds to the subtleties of each tyre configuration…for some people they are able to discern, or perceive the palpable benefits that a change of tyres brings..

Of course such pleasures command greater fiscal commitments but it’s churlish to begrudge others for expressing preferences that for whatever reason you are unwilling to accept or feel unwarranted.

If anyone who had requested views on premium tyres had specified ‘and money is an issue’ then they wouldn’t be proffered recommendations on Goodyear, Michelin and Conti..

Suum cuique :thumbsup:
 
B21 said:
Seems you are missing a point of view held by some people on this forum?

You don’t need perfect hearing to appreciate great music delivered through a well developed sound system

You don’t need perfect eye sight to enjoy a great program delivered on a large screen UHD TV

Similarly you don’t need to be The Stig to appreciate great feedback, assured handling and comfort delivered by the latest premium tyres..The E89 as a chassis responds to the subtleties of each tyre configuration…for some people they are able to discern, or perceive the palpable benefits that a change of tyres brings..

Of course such pleasures command greater fiscal commitments but it’s churlish to begrudge others for expressing preferences that for whatever reason you are unwilling to accept or feel unwarranted.

If anyone who had requested views on premium tyres had specified ‘and money is an issue’ then they wouldn’t be proffered recommendations on Goodyear, Michelin and Conti..

Suum cuique
You been on the sauce again Peter, or been reading Shakespeare this evening? :poke:
 
B21 said:
You don’t need perfect hearing to appreciate great music delivered through a well developed sound system

You don’t need perfect eye sight to enjoy a great program delivered on a large screen UHD TV
Yes you do IMHO. Otherwise you are just spending money unnecessarily on something that will give you no benefit.
Extremely pertinent analogy, though. As the tyre 'thing' is the same!
 
Stone cold sober…off for my first proper drive tomorrow morning since eye surgery.. :driving:

Nothing wrong with a bit of Shakespeare….although what that has to do with this tread not sure.. :tumbleweed:

However to paraphrase Twelfth Night….’if music be the food of love..give me a 10 channel, DSP amp with frequency and phase compensation and time path correction’ :rofl:
 
Pondrew said:
B21 said:
You don’t need perfect hearing to appreciate great music delivered through a well developed sound system

You don’t need perfect eye sight to enjoy a great program delivered on a large screen UHD TV
Yes you do IMHO. Otherwise you are just spending money unnecessarily on something that will give you no benefit.
Extremely pertinent analogy, though. As the tyre 'thing' is the same!

Not true, when I had an operation on my right eye in 2015, I had subsequently had to do a flight test with a qualified examiner under the direction of the Aviation Medical Examiner to ascertain whether I was fit to fly.

When I asked him what the flight test did he replied…

‘Even though your eye eight is irretrievably impaired, the human brain integrates a myriad of cues and uses substitution logic and experience to augment impaired senses’

By satisfactorily completing the flight test you demonstrate that fact … :thumbsup:
 
The irony of my comments (which I stand by) is that I have been looking for a car again, and I have been discounting offerings with 'Chinese' tyres fitted.
I know this makes me sounds like a hypocrite, but I'm really not. It's far more complicated for me. :D

PS glad your minces are doing well Peter! :D
 
Pondrew said:
You can't beat car forums for lining the pockets of tyre manufacturers! :lol:
"influencers" get paid a lot of money these days on social media, yet car forum people do it for free!
Seems like only yesterday that the Michelin MPS4s was the best tyre in the world bar none. Oh hang on it WAS yesterday!

Then we had the Conti CS6. Brilliant tyre. But that's now SOOOO last week, the Conti SC7 is much better!

I never realised that the average car forum person was a professional racing driver. If not, many have missed their calling in life! :poke:

I bought some Roadstones yesterday. Never heard of the make but they were £67 a corner and seem fine! :rofl:

Tyre snobbery is making people a lot of money and costing others more.

Well, the SC6 was more expensive than the SC7, the PS4S was a lot more expensive than the SC7….

GOODYEAR F1assy 6 and Dunlop GT 2 were also more expensive than the SC7….

Basically the SC7 was cheaper than all the other front runners.

It is important to me that I can stop if it’s raining, without depending on the inertia of the vehicle in front…. So I tend to avoid linglongs, dingdongs, singsongs and other tyres I’ve never heard of :poke: :thumbsup:
 
True-Blue said:
Well, the SC6 was more expensive than the SC7, the PS4S was a lot more expensive than the SC7….

GOODYEAR F1assy 6 and Dunlop GT 2 were also more expensive than the SC7….

Basically the SC7 was cheaper than all the other front runners.

It is important to me that I can stop if it’s raining, without depending on the inertia of the vehicle in front…. So I tend to avoid linglongs, dingdongs, singsongs and other tyres I’ve never heard of

:thumbsup:

I wasn't having a pop at you Martin, just the whole 'tyre' thing! :)
 
B21 said:
However to paraphrase Twelfth Night….’if music be the food of love..give me a 10 channel, DSP amp with frequency and phase compensation and time path correction’
If we are talking about sound, then all that is wasted in a car IMO.
The acoustics of a car are terrible, especially a small car. Added to that, the speakers are mounted in materials that ruin any sound generation, like door cards which vibrate badly.
Don't really see the point of spending mega money making something marginally better TBH. You can't polish a turd!

I get the reasons why...I can afford it and want to. Nothing wrong with that. :thumbsup:

Best music I ever had in a vehicle (back when my hearing was good) was a Ford Escort van where I put 4 Mission bookshelf speakers bolted to the body with rubber washers, through an Alpine head unit and Rockford Fosgate amp. The quality of the sound was epic.
 
Pondrew said:
True-Blue said:
Well, the SC6 was more expensive than the SC7, the PS4S was a lot more expensive than the SC7….

GOODYEAR F1assy 6 and Dunlop GT 2 were also more expensive than the SC7….

Basically the SC7 was cheaper than all the other front runners.

It is important to me that I can stop if it’s raining, without depending on the inertia of the vehicle in front…. So I tend to avoid linglongs, dingdongs, singsongs and other tyres I’ve never heard of

:thumbsup:

I wasn't having a pop at you Martin, just the whole 'tyre' thing! :)

It’s all good, I would have probably considered these anyway as they came up competitively priced (compared to all the usual suspects) when I was searching :thumbsup:

Will be seriously disappointed if I don’t cut a few seconds of my lap times through the Costa drive through though :driving:
 
Pondrew said:
B21 said:
However to paraphrase Twelfth Night….’if music be the food of love..give me a 10 channel, DSP amp with frequency and phase compensation and time path correction’
If we are talking about sound, then all that is wasted in a car IMO.
The acoustics of a car are terrible, especially a small car. Added to that, the speakers are mounted in materials that ruin any sound generation, like door cards which vibrate badly.
Don't really see the point of spending mega money making something marginally better TBH. You can't polish a turd!

I get the reasons why...I can afford it and want to. Nothing wrong with that. :thumbsup:

Best music I ever had in a vehicle (back when my hearing was good) was a Ford Escort van where I put 4 Mission bookshelf speakers bolted to the body with rubber washers, through an Alpine head unit and Rockford Fosgate amp. The quality of the sound was epic.

I’m with you on this one, up to a point. The first Z4 we had didn’t have door speakers, the sound was bloody awful as all the noise was behind you - so a cheap upgrade and reasonably decent. Current zed has the top end factory Hifi (677) and it sounds great - until you put the roof down, at which point it’s more power and volume - quantity yes, quality no (due to environment)

It’s all down to personal choice at the end of the day, what makes me laugh is people who spend literally thousands on lightweight track wheels and then fit ditchfinders to them :?

I also struggle with people who claim poverty, but lease M2’s, M3’s and RangeRovers - but that’s a whole other debate :headbang:
 
True-Blue said:
I also struggle with people who claim poverty, but lease M2’s, M3’s and RangeRovers - but that’s a whole other debate
Yes, let's have that debate! It's one of my favs!
Every other Council house around here has rubbish and crap all over the front garden, yet a FFRR or M4 parked up against the crap! :headbang:
 
Pondrew said:
B21 said:
However to paraphrase Twelfth Night….’if music be the food of love..give me a 10 channel, DSP amp with frequency and phase compensation and time path correction’
If we are talking about sound, then all that is wasted in a car IMO.
The acoustics of a car are terrible, especially a small car. Added to that, the speakers are mounted in materials that ruin any sound generation, like door cards which vibrate badly.
Don't really see the point of spending mega money making something marginally better TBH. You can't polish a turd!

I get the reasons why...I can afford it and want to. Nothing wrong with that. :thumbsup:

Best music I ever had in a vehicle (back when my hearing was good) was a Ford Escort van where I put 4 Mission bookshelf speakers bolted to the body with rubber washers, through an Alpine head unit and Rockford Fosgate amp. The quality of the sound was epic.

I do wish you seperated your opinions from facts.. :poke:

On the E89 the door speakers are solidly mounted on hard rubbe rmounts set in the steel door panel..not the door cards..you can pump 50 watts into the door and there are no rattles of coloured harmonics..

By usiing digital processing the audio guys can overcome very effectively the instrinsic issues of a less then perfect sitting room theoretical environment.

By using spectral analysis, correcting phase, time delay issues, resonances and 'holes' they can use an array of speakers each with its own unique and tailored profile to overcome limitations.

So the turd can be polished, minmised and audibly eliminated..

That's irrespective of whether you 'get it'

I'm not sure whether you've stuffed your head down a time warp labelled 1985 or you just begrudge folks enjoying 'improving' their cars in wa ys that you don't find 'cost effective'..?

Reminds me of the saying 'price of everything and the value of nothing'
 
B21 said:
I do wish you seperated your opinions from facts..
To me they are one and the same thing! :D
B21 said:
I'm not sure whether you've stuffed your head down a time warp labelled 1985 or you just begrudge folks enjoying 'improving' their cars in wa ys that you don't find 'cost effective'..?
Yes....this also! :D Not begrudge, though.

As you well know I like to put across another side, or viewpoint, to certain things. Makes it fun! :)
 
Sorry, I thought we were talking Conti tyres boys???

I’ll give my views on them post Wednesday fitting. I resisted a cheaper offering for tyre swap to do it right first time, and welcomed the forum views.

Would I have taken the RFTs off had I not been in the forum? No. I’d have put up with a mediocre ride and a pretty car. I remain hopeful that the change will make a noticeable difference
 
And if they don’t, I’ve got to justify why I changed them at all (with 4mm plus of tread all round) to JL. We are talking handbag money, or even a weekend away… A
 
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