
Pondrew said:You can't beat car forums for lining the pockets of tyre manufacturers! :lol:
"influencers" get paid a lot of money these days on social media, yet car forum people do it for free!
Seems like only yesterday that the Michelin MPS4s was the best tyre in the world bar none. Oh hang on it WAS yesterday!
Then we had the Conti CS6. Brilliant tyre. But that's now SOOOO last week, the Conti SC7 is much better!
I never realised that the average car forum person was a professional racing driver. If not, many have missed their calling in life!![]()
I bought some Roadstones yesterday. Never heard of the make but they were £67 a corner and seem fine!
Tyre snobbery is making others lot of money and costing others more.
You been on the sauce again Peter, or been reading Shakespeare this evening?B21 said:Seems you are missing a point of view held by some people on this forum?
You don’t need perfect hearing to appreciate great music delivered through a well developed sound system
You don’t need perfect eye sight to enjoy a great program delivered on a large screen UHD TV
Similarly you don’t need to be The Stig to appreciate great feedback, assured handling and comfort delivered by the latest premium tyres..The E89 as a chassis responds to the subtleties of each tyre configuration…for some people they are able to discern, or perceive the palpable benefits that a change of tyres brings..
Of course such pleasures command greater fiscal commitments but it’s churlish to begrudge others for expressing preferences that for whatever reason you are unwilling to accept or feel unwarranted.
If anyone who had requested views on premium tyres had specified ‘and money is an issue’ then they wouldn’t be proffered recommendations on Goodyear, Michelin and Conti..
Suum cuique

Yes you do IMHO. Otherwise you are just spending money unnecessarily on something that will give you no benefit.B21 said:You don’t need perfect hearing to appreciate great music delivered through a well developed sound system
You don’t need perfect eye sight to enjoy a great program delivered on a large screen UHD TV

Pondrew said:Yes you do IMHO. Otherwise you are just spending money unnecessarily on something that will give you no benefit.B21 said:You don’t need perfect hearing to appreciate great music delivered through a well developed sound system
You don’t need perfect eye sight to enjoy a great program delivered on a large screen UHD TV
Extremely pertinent analogy, though. As the tyre 'thing' is the same!
Pondrew said:You can't beat car forums for lining the pockets of tyre manufacturers! :lol:
"influencers" get paid a lot of money these days on social media, yet car forum people do it for free!
Seems like only yesterday that the Michelin MPS4s was the best tyre in the world bar none. Oh hang on it WAS yesterday!
Then we had the Conti CS6. Brilliant tyre. But that's now SOOOO last week, the Conti SC7 is much better!
I never realised that the average car forum person was a professional racing driver. If not, many have missed their calling in life!![]()
I bought some Roadstones yesterday. Never heard of the make but they were £67 a corner and seem fine!
Tyre snobbery is making people a lot of money and costing others more.
True-Blue said:Well, the SC6 was more expensive than the SC7, the PS4S was a lot more expensive than the SC7….
GOODYEAR F1assy 6 and Dunlop GT 2 were also more expensive than the SC7….
Basically the SC7 was cheaper than all the other front runners.
It is important to me that I can stop if it’s raining, without depending on the inertia of the vehicle in front…. So I tend to avoid linglongs, dingdongs, singsongs and other tyres I’ve never heard of
If we are talking about sound, then all that is wasted in a car IMO.B21 said:However to paraphrase Twelfth Night….’if music be the food of love..give me a 10 channel, DSP amp with frequency and phase compensation and time path correction’
Pondrew said:True-Blue said:Well, the SC6 was more expensive than the SC7, the PS4S was a lot more expensive than the SC7….
GOODYEAR F1assy 6 and Dunlop GT 2 were also more expensive than the SC7….
Basically the SC7 was cheaper than all the other front runners.
It is important to me that I can stop if it’s raining, without depending on the inertia of the vehicle in front…. So I tend to avoid linglongs, dingdongs, singsongs and other tyres I’ve never heard of
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I wasn't having a pop at you Martin, just the whole 'tyre' thing!![]()

Pondrew said:If we are talking about sound, then all that is wasted in a car IMO.B21 said:However to paraphrase Twelfth Night….’if music be the food of love..give me a 10 channel, DSP amp with frequency and phase compensation and time path correction’
The acoustics of a car are terrible, especially a small car. Added to that, the speakers are mounted in materials that ruin any sound generation, like door cards which vibrate badly.
Don't really see the point of spending mega money making something marginally better TBH. You can't polish a turd!
I get the reasons why...I can afford it and want to. Nothing wrong with that.![]()
Best music I ever had in a vehicle (back when my hearing was good) was a Ford Escort van where I put 4 Mission bookshelf speakers bolted to the body with rubber washers, through an Alpine head unit and Rockford Fosgate amp. The quality of the sound was epic.

Yes, let's have that debate! It's one of my favs!True-Blue said:I also struggle with people who claim poverty, but lease M2’s, M3’s and RangeRovers - but that’s a whole other debate

Pondrew said:If we are talking about sound, then all that is wasted in a car IMO.B21 said:However to paraphrase Twelfth Night….’if music be the food of love..give me a 10 channel, DSP amp with frequency and phase compensation and time path correction’
The acoustics of a car are terrible, especially a small car. Added to that, the speakers are mounted in materials that ruin any sound generation, like door cards which vibrate badly.
Don't really see the point of spending mega money making something marginally better TBH. You can't polish a turd!
I get the reasons why...I can afford it and want to. Nothing wrong with that.![]()
Best music I ever had in a vehicle (back when my hearing was good) was a Ford Escort van where I put 4 Mission bookshelf speakers bolted to the body with rubber washers, through an Alpine head unit and Rockford Fosgate amp. The quality of the sound was epic.
To me they are one and the same thing!B21 said:I do wish you seperated your opinions from facts..
Yes....this also!B21 said:I'm not sure whether you've stuffed your head down a time warp labelled 1985 or you just begrudge folks enjoying 'improving' their cars in wa ys that you don't find 'cost effective'..?