Compulsory smart meters?
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Yes I can't say I miss the days of crawling around on my hands knees with a torch to get a meter reading and faffing around sending it off.
Amuses me why people seem so anti smart meters as though they are being spied on or they believe they there is some sort of sinister agenda :lol:
Perhaps its the same people who believe the jab is a way of controlling them.
Tim.
Amuses me why people seem so anti smart meters as though they are being spied on or they believe they there is some sort of sinister agenda :lol:
Perhaps its the same people who believe the jab is a way of controlling them.
Tim.
Nanu said:
Absolute rubbish.
As smorris_12 said in a previous post, they can monitor it to charge you different tariffs, yes. If you sign up for that, of course.
It is possible to reduce electrical power, but it would need equipment that your neighbour does not have installed in his house. And to do it remotely would need a lot more.
?Edmi mk7 can have a remote disconnect single phase
Edmi mk10 can have a remote disconnect three phase
Elster as230 can have a remote disconnect single phase
You can generally tell if the meter has a disconnect function as they'll be a symbol for a switch on the info plate on the front
Edmi mk10 can have a remote disconnect three phase
Elster as230 can have a remote disconnect single phase
You can generally tell if the meter has a disconnect function as they'll be a symbol for a switch on the info plate on the front
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So the argument for getting one is basically people are to lazy/ incapable to take a photo of a meter/type a numbers on an app/internet when they get a free minute and it's super cool to be able to work out how much as cup of tea and some toast costs to make.
Not sure how that compares to medical treatment or the strikes from the 70's but good one.
Some people just want to enter a number and get a bill. They don't really want their uses monitored in real time.
There is space in the world for both types of people
Not sure how that compares to medical treatment or the strikes from the 70's but good one.
Some people just want to enter a number and get a bill. They don't really want their uses monitored in real time.
There is space in the world for both types of people
mgrlane said:
I have smart meters for both gas and electricity.
Back in late May the gas one packed up. Stopped sending any readings.
They finally replaced it yesterday.
I was in no rush as I'd had a few conversations with them. The principal was that once the new meter was in they would watch it for 2-3 weeks and work out an average then charge me back to May at that rate.
I managed to get through to a real person and explained that as I hadn't used gas for my heating since it failed, then to use an average in late October would not be very representative.
They readily agreed and have charged me some ludicrously low set amount for all the time the meter has been u/s. This was agreed, in writing, to continue until the new meter was fitted. I was gutted when I saw them turn up.
Tbh, I'm in the 'much easier' camp on this. Especially as 'management' is continually tidying up and i have no idea where the keys for the cabinets are any more. :roll:
Back in late May the gas one packed up. Stopped sending any readings.
They finally replaced it yesterday.
I was in no rush as I'd had a few conversations with them. The principal was that once the new meter was in they would watch it for 2-3 weeks and work out an average then charge me back to May at that rate.
I managed to get through to a real person and explained that as I hadn't used gas for my heating since it failed, then to use an average in late October would not be very representative.
They readily agreed and have charged me some ludicrously low set amount for all the time the meter has been u/s. This was agreed, in writing, to continue until the new meter was fitted. I was gutted when I saw them turn up.
Tbh, I'm in the 'much easier' camp on this. Especially as 'management' is continually tidying up and i have no idea where the keys for the cabinets are any more. :roll:
I won’t have it because of the green levies. I now read the meter and submit when I calculate when I am under the threshold, as the green levy is applied to the entire billing period it can be a very expensive mistake. If I go over the threshold due to high use for example building work, I set the bill period very short so I only get taxed over a limited number of days. Can be the difference in quite a bit of tax.
Pondrew said:
Thank you for the support Pondrew!
Oddly enough, in the context of car charging, this is one area where I expect chargers will have been designed with remote switching in mind. The National Grid is close to capacity at the best of times so there's no way it can support half the country getting home at 6pm and plugging in a 7+kW charger so a means of load spreading will be essential.
Ideally this would be by negotiation based on the user's stated requirements ("I need my car at 8pm", "don't need it before 7am") which will be fine until enough of the entitled brigade have them and just thump the Must Have Now button no matter what their plans are!
Devon
As I understand it, it is more difficult to change providers if you have a smart meter as it reverts to a standard type meter. Probably why the providers like them. Also I'm not happy being pushed into having something I don't want, same with electric cars. How many of you with smart meters have noticed their usage increasing since having them fitted? :evil:
Must give credit to Octopus Energy.
I asked them which meter was approaching the end of its certification date and they responded in great detail. They told me it didn’t expire for another year, there was no need to change the meter to a smart meter if I didn’t want one. They even said when the certification period expires there is still no legal compulsion to change it as long as we both agree it is functioning accurately which they agree it is.
So no smart meters and I think I can manage to find time in my diary once per month to read a couple of digits and ask STMBO to tap those numbers into a website.
I asked them which meter was approaching the end of its certification date and they responded in great detail. They told me it didn’t expire for another year, there was no need to change the meter to a smart meter if I didn’t want one. They even said when the certification period expires there is still no legal compulsion to change it as long as we both agree it is functioning accurately which they agree it is.
So no smart meters and I think I can manage to find time in my diary once per month to read a couple of digits and ask STMBO to tap those numbers into a website.
pvr said:
Sounds about right but do you know where that reg comes from? Is it in Part P?
It’s infuriating because we spent a fair bit of money on a dedicated external meter kiosk (to the DNO’s spec) when we demolished our old house, but are now stuck with a prehistoric meter.
I have no idea but had electrical work done in my old and neeMrPT said:
office buildings and had to move radiators and sockets because of that rule.
Funniest part is that the consumer unit has to be 40 cm from the ground so that disabled can reach it. Let’s not talk children here then but as it was 1.8 meters high it had to come down
There’s seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding on how smart meters work. First, the smart meter, the bit connected to and measures your gas or electricity usage does not use your Wi-Fi and second you don’t need to have the in-home display plugged in and on for the smart meter to work.