Comments on for sale threads
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zedfourthreelitre
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sp3ctre said:zedfourthreelitre said:it would be if comments weren't allowed :roll:
LOL, what can I say.... I guess I'll be getting a few less Christmas cards this year
cant please everyone mate
zedfourthreelitre
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flimper said:
Lol, its a car for sale advert lads, not divorce proceedings
Paulr said:zedfourthreelitre said:flimper said:
Lol, its a car for sale advert lads, not divorce proceedings
:lol: A divorce will cost a hell of a lot more, so I am led to believe.
I'm not so sure about that, have you seen the prices asked for some of those M cars? :wink:
Rob
I hope you can back that comment up RobSmartbear said:Paulr said:zedfourthreelitre said:Lol, its a car for sale advert lads, not divorce proceedings
:lol: A divorce will cost a hell of a lot more, so I am led to believe.
I'm not so sure about that, have you seen the prices asked for some of those M cars? :wink:
Rob
and yes, a divorce does cost a hell of a lot more, I have the bank statements to prove it 
pvr said:
If only those sorts of remarks were restricted to non-contributing advertisers asking for no offers though pvr. Sadly, they aren't, and if the price is "perceived way off" perhaps those who think that could provide even one tiny piece of evidence to support their opinion? If they can't, and in the most recent incidence they have not done so, the comments should be deleted because they are baseless. If people's moronic comments were deleted they'd soon stop making them in the first place.
If people want to query missing information or service history or warranty work etc etc that's fine. I'm not suggesting we completely censor any comments on the thread.
My 2p? FWIW.
If you are a seller, it's reasonable to expect queries & questions, however some members seem to enjoy making derogatory comments.
If you are buying, then serious questions & remarks should be entertained and replied to.
Of more concern to me is the number of newbies who's first post is a "for sale" one..
Mike
If you are a seller, it's reasonable to expect queries & questions, however some members seem to enjoy making derogatory comments.
If you are buying, then serious questions & remarks should be entertained and replied to.
Of more concern to me is the number of newbies who's first post is a "for sale" one..
Mike
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Ducklakeview said:
You're the second person to mention this but this forum has no restrictions on new users posting for sale adverts as their first posts. Nothing wrong with that IMHO - it makes this forum a great place of for potential buyers to look for a car.
It looks like approx 50 cars advertised here in the last 10 weeks, 11 are marked as sold, at least 5 or 6 through the forum listing. So 20% sell within 10 weeks with 10%+ directly via a free forum advert. Buyers obviously don't restrict their search to just this forum so serious sellers should probably advertise elsewhere as well. Both will take wider market values in to account, so comments, particularly on pricing are going to make very little, if any difference to successful sale values or the wider market.
I used to disagree with commenting on for-sale threads but hearing the arguments and having intervened a couple of times when sellers were being downright 'shady' I now agree with the mod's stance (which I know must come as a great relief to them :wink: )
I used to disagree with commenting on for-sale threads but hearing the arguments and having intervened a couple of times when sellers were being downright 'shady' I now agree with the mod's stance (which I know must come as a great relief to them :wink: )
The mods are always watching :spy: but as Marlon has said it's with a light touch. Posts are regularly reported and reviewed and we only intervene in the event of extreme handbags.
Most mod time is spent toasting spammers or moving posts into the correct forum.
Most mod time is spent toasting spammers or moving posts into the correct forum.
Overall I think this forum is awesome and I would be happy to buy and sell any car through it.
As a separate point, the amount of value the info in this forum gives people is incredible. Not having to pay a fee to get access to the gold mine is another incredible achievement. Anyone who doesn't see that is just plain short sighted. Where else can you get so much good stuff for nothing?
As a separate point, the amount of value the info in this forum gives people is incredible. Not having to pay a fee to get access to the gold mine is another incredible achievement. Anyone who doesn't see that is just plain short sighted. Where else can you get so much good stuff for nothing?
original guvnor said:
probably my comment lol, if the guy gets 21k then good luck to him but is 21k a realistic price for his car???????????
i totally agree with Jim, adverties for free and expect to get comments. If somebody advertises an M for a low price then i'm sure there would be plenty of comments to say its too cheap
Very pleased to see this thread coz over the last few weeks I've been burning to raise it myself
No way would I advertise my car on here after seeing some of the malicious smart assed comments that are pitched in - it feels to me like an exam - if you don't get it 100% right then out comes the red pen
I have talked to Alan (number 5) and other members and all have said no way would they (we) advertise here - so given we have some of the best maintained cars around where does that leave the argument that you get the best cars on the forum??
Of course there are newbies posting poor ads - but TBH this is the minority
I just think you should be able to come on here and pick up a really good Zed with confidence - but whilst you can do this the numbers are limited because of members attitude to what comments are acceptable against a for sale ad and the reaction this creates
I love this forum - but in this area we are wide of what is acceptable reasonable and productive to the promotion of a great car.
Just my opinion of course
No way would I advertise my car on here after seeing some of the malicious smart assed comments that are pitched in - it feels to me like an exam - if you don't get it 100% right then out comes the red pen
I have talked to Alan (number 5) and other members and all have said no way would they (we) advertise here - so given we have some of the best maintained cars around where does that leave the argument that you get the best cars on the forum??
Of course there are newbies posting poor ads - but TBH this is the minority
I just think you should be able to come on here and pick up a really good Zed with confidence - but whilst you can do this the numbers are limited because of members attitude to what comments are acceptable against a for sale ad and the reaction this creates
I love this forum - but in this area we are wide of what is acceptable reasonable and productive to the promotion of a great car.
Just my opinion of course
Spikey said:
Judging by some PM's I've seen in the last couple of days, you're certainly not alone feeling like that, but it seems like you can come out with any old s**t provided you're not a seller. They have to be absolutely 100% accurate on every last detail or face a public dressing down.
Taz said:
Prove it isn't then? Or withdraw the comment.
Thermaltake
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Despite being fairly new around here I would be leaning on the side of no comments.
I can see the value of commenting on for sale threads for various reasons such as sellers leaving details out so people asking further questions can prod for details people are wanting being the main one, And generally can give you a feel for the seller in that they are forward with giving information, History etc.
But this is out weighed with comments I (and others) have seen. People with no interest in the car for sale just being troublesome, Making snidey comments on price, condition etc and then starting pages of back and forth, Although I havent seen anything malicious as a seller I would be a bit annoyed if my for sale thread turned into pages of useless Jibber Jabber.
If someone wishes to advertise their car for X price then that surely is up to them. Ultimately potential buyers will pay what they are willing to pay. A potential buyer will surely have looked at various for sale sites and got a guage on what prices are for spec, mileage history so will be aware if they are getting a good deal or not. Comments like "Good luck at that price :? " Isnt particularly good for anyone involved.
The other ones I have seen, A car for sale with listed bad points honestly from the seller, Only to be told in the comments he should fix them as it shows the car has not been maintained. Again if a seller wishes to list his car with faults mentioned and reflected in price rather, This is surely upto the seller, Could be numerous reasons for it. Time, Finances, mechanical knowledge.
The worst I seen was someone commented that the photos were bad as it shown the car had been recently washed as there was soap on the floor. I couldnt get my head around that one and would prefer not to have clogging up a for sale thread.
I agree there are times needed for comments but being the internet some people just dont have a moderation of control and say things they would never consider saying in person. Could just be me but I view a car sale as a fairly professional thing and would treat it as such so I would always PM regarding details rather than publicly making comments on threads.
My recent experience purchasing a coupe on saturday from a forum member on here. All dealt with through PM for any details I was looking for and arrangements made from there. Although the car sale was not as professional as it could of been lol, It included taking a tourist trip of leeds trying to find a bank while google maps sent us in circles, Possibly expecting a fine for driving in a bus lane on a test drive and then forgetting signing some paperwork. But he was a Genuinely nice guy, Knew his stuff and in the end was a good sale.
I can see the value of commenting on for sale threads for various reasons such as sellers leaving details out so people asking further questions can prod for details people are wanting being the main one, And generally can give you a feel for the seller in that they are forward with giving information, History etc.
But this is out weighed with comments I (and others) have seen. People with no interest in the car for sale just being troublesome, Making snidey comments on price, condition etc and then starting pages of back and forth, Although I havent seen anything malicious as a seller I would be a bit annoyed if my for sale thread turned into pages of useless Jibber Jabber.
If someone wishes to advertise their car for X price then that surely is up to them. Ultimately potential buyers will pay what they are willing to pay. A potential buyer will surely have looked at various for sale sites and got a guage on what prices are for spec, mileage history so will be aware if they are getting a good deal or not. Comments like "Good luck at that price :? " Isnt particularly good for anyone involved.
The other ones I have seen, A car for sale with listed bad points honestly from the seller, Only to be told in the comments he should fix them as it shows the car has not been maintained. Again if a seller wishes to list his car with faults mentioned and reflected in price rather, This is surely upto the seller, Could be numerous reasons for it. Time, Finances, mechanical knowledge.
The worst I seen was someone commented that the photos were bad as it shown the car had been recently washed as there was soap on the floor. I couldnt get my head around that one and would prefer not to have clogging up a for sale thread.
I agree there are times needed for comments but being the internet some people just dont have a moderation of control and say things they would never consider saying in person. Could just be me but I view a car sale as a fairly professional thing and would treat it as such so I would always PM regarding details rather than publicly making comments on threads.
My recent experience purchasing a coupe on saturday from a forum member on here. All dealt with through PM for any details I was looking for and arrangements made from there. Although the car sale was not as professional as it could of been lol, It included taking a tourist trip of leeds trying to find a bank while google maps sent us in circles, Possibly expecting a fine for driving in a bus lane on a test drive and then forgetting signing some paperwork. But he was a Genuinely nice guy, Knew his stuff and in the end was a good sale.
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