Combustible Propellant..?
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PinkPineapple44
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I use Shell V power or BP ultimate for my mapped cars and cars I like. Any old crap for everything else 
SteveSmith
Active member
Shell V Power in everything even the OH's Mini Cooper with the awful 3 cylinder engine!
Busterboo said:
The log book for the E89 was written before Shell nitro v power nitro + was produced, it’s not changed much to production end, nor the fuel filler sticker, a standard from production start. BMW now are in partnership with Shell and recommend using 99 Ron in their M cars, the 35is is not an M, however there is no literature from BMW saying you shouldn’t use 99 Ron in their cars, that includes the 35is. This fuel for example has cleaning and lubing properties beneficial to an engine. Octane rating is largely a knock retardant, therefore the higher the Ron the better, it burns in a more controlled way, and the 35is has a knock sensor which would retard timing if the fuel octane was too low. We’ve been here before, if you can find one single written word where BMW say you shouldn’t use 99 Ron in a 35is I’ll give you an apology. Do you honestly think BMW are going to sell a car costing upwards of 50k before discounts that shouldn’t use 99 Ron fuel without telling new owners? Sytner Nottingham did not tell me not to use 99 Ron when buying my 35is new in 2015 when Shell V power nitro + was in production. It’s a fair assumption to make that they would have as the car came with a 3 year warranty, enough time I’d say to damage the pistons and cost them oodles of quids. How many stickers have you seen on Shell fuel pumps, Momentum 99 pumps for example declaring that the BMW 35is mustn’t use their 99 Ron fuel? Sorry, was that none you say...? Funny that, as there aren’t any.
How do you know it’s a nuisance for Sunnydays to find a Shell station? How do you know it’s expensive for him to buy? Do you know if he can afford it or not?
If you feel the need to post on the forum then why not tell a joke or two, or find something that you have some sort of idea on, as difficult as that may be....it would make a nice change from drivel.
North West Surrey
Wrong combustible it seems, but some years ago I was working as a commercial property loss adjuster and went to a site that made a certain hair-spray (think of Roger Clark)!
To keep the environmentalists happy they had to change their propellant to LPG - but when it went wrong it "blew the bloody walls off"!
But we can't emit CO2 now can we?
To keep the environmentalists happy they had to change their propellant to LPG - but when it went wrong it "blew the bloody walls off"!
But we can't emit CO2 now can we?
Busterboo said:
Because it makes your engine cleaner internally, that’s a pretty good reason.
Also it’s been well documented that forced induction cars do particularly well on super unleaded, gaining more benefit from the fuel than a na engine would, that’s another good reason
Rob
john-e89 said:
"Shell V-Power, formerly known as Shell V-Power Nitro+, is the brand name given to Shell's enhanced high specification fuels for road motor vehicles. Shell launched the fuel in March 2008 under the name Nitrogen-Enriched Shell V-Power, with nitrogen-containing detergents." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_V-Power
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Will Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel ruin car engines?
Apr 24th, 2013 by John Donovan.
I remember the launch of another wonder fuel by Shell in 1986, “Formula Shell”, based on new technology and with a scientific image deliberately conjured up by Shell. There was only one small problem. The new wonder fuel ruined many car engines and it did so on an international basis.
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By John Donovan
The Telegraph has published an article today under the headline: Can Shell’s new ‘Formula 1’ petrol ease anger at pumps?
It asks: Is Shell’s new petrol – Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel – as good as the fuel used in Formula 1 cars?
Extract
David Moss, the chief executive of Shell UK who was in Battersea to launch the fuel with Ferrari, accepted that petrol prices are “not cheap” but he insisted his company is not to blame. “If you take out the duties and taxes that customers pay in the UK, the fuel prices are some of the most competitive in Europe,” he said. “It is a very, very competitive market place and Shell has to be competitively placed.” He denies charges that Shell and others are profiteering from a captured UK market.
Mr Moss says the new fuel, whose engine cleaning agent is 25pc better than the old V-Power, is part of the effort to attract customers.
2013, 5 years into 35is production. You still haven’t answered the point about BMW not letting customers use 99 Ron in the 35is either.
Will Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel ruin car engines?
Apr 24th, 2013 by John Donovan.
I remember the launch of another wonder fuel by Shell in 1986, “Formula Shell”, based on new technology and with a scientific image deliberately conjured up by Shell. There was only one small problem. The new wonder fuel ruined many car engines and it did so on an international basis.
Screen Shot 2013-04-24 at 16.45.17
By John Donovan
The Telegraph has published an article today under the headline: Can Shell’s new ‘Formula 1’ petrol ease anger at pumps?
It asks: Is Shell’s new petrol – Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel – as good as the fuel used in Formula 1 cars?
Extract
David Moss, the chief executive of Shell UK who was in Battersea to launch the fuel with Ferrari, accepted that petrol prices are “not cheap” but he insisted his company is not to blame. “If you take out the duties and taxes that customers pay in the UK, the fuel prices are some of the most competitive in Europe,” he said. “It is a very, very competitive market place and Shell has to be competitively placed.” He denies charges that Shell and others are profiteering from a captured UK market.
Mr Moss says the new fuel, whose engine cleaning agent is 25pc better than the old V-Power, is part of the effort to attract customers.
2013, 5 years into 35is production. You still haven’t answered the point about BMW not letting customers use 99 Ron in the 35is either.
Busterboo said:john-e89 said:
"Shell V-Power, formerly known as Shell V-Power Nitro+, is the brand name given to Shell's enhanced high specification fuels for road motor vehicles. Shell launched the fuel in March 2008 under the name Nitrogen-Enriched Shell V-Power, with nitrogen-containing detergents." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_V-Power
Royal Dutch Shell Plc .com Rotating Header Image
Will Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel ruin car engines?
Apr 24th, 2013 by John Donovan.
I remember the launch of another wonder fuel by Shell in 1986, “Formula Shell”, based on new technology and with a scientific image deliberately conjured up by Shell. There was only one small problem. The new wonder fuel ruined many car engines and it did so on an international basis.
Screen Shot 2013-04-24 at 16.45.17
By John Donovan
The Telegraph has published an article today under the headline: Can Shell’s new ‘Formula 1’ petrol ease anger at pumps?
It asks: Is Shell’s new petrol – Shell’s new V-Power Nitro Plus fuel – as good as the fuel used in Formula 1 cars?
Extract
David Moss, the chief executive of Shell UK who was in Battersea to launch the fuel with Ferrari, accepted that petrol prices are “not cheap” but he insisted his company is not to blame. “If you take out the duties and taxes that customers pay in the UK, the fuel prices are some of the most competitive in Europe,” he said. “It is a very, very competitive market place and Shell has to be competitively placed.” He denies charges that Shell and others are profiteering from a captured UK market.
Mr Moss says the new fuel, whose engine cleaning agent is 25pc better than the old V-Power, is part of the effort to attract customers.
2013, if I’m not mistaken the 35is was well into production at this time.
You still haven’t answered my point about BMW not letting customers use 99 Ron in the 35is either.
Busterboo said:The label inside the fuel flap of my 35iS says,
"Unleaded Petrol Only
ROZ/RON 95
(ROZ/RON 95-98)".
Shell V-Power is 99.
I rest my case.
You don’t have a ‘case’. You know full well you can use 99 Ron in the 35is, you just don’t have the maturity to hold your hands up and admit it. After reading your irrelevant and incorrect drivel I thought maybe I could make quite a few quid by trawling around the scrap yards up and down the country stripping bits off knackered 35is engines from using 99 Ron, even though BMW haven’t said it’s unsafe, they’re even a Shell partnership now, but you know what? Every scrap yard I rang didn’t have a knackered 35is in with a shagged engine from using the ‘wrong fuel’, any idea why? Yes, that’s right, because there aren’t any. But whatever, as usual, you know best.
You can, obviously, use whatever fuel you like in your car. Sunnydays, me, lots of others on this forum in all sorts of Zeds will carry on using 99 Ron for its cleaning and lubricating properties, it’s higher anti knock properties, you don’t have to, its your democratic right to carry on being pedantic.
As I’ve said before, it’s impossible to argue with an idiot, and don’t say I haven’t tried.
Busterboo said:
Hi, as mentioned by other members many benefits including anti knock properties, engine cleaning and lubing. And if you have the car mapped you can take advantage of the higher octane.
1. BMWs maximum ron figure is likely because 99 ron was not around back on release.
2. If you are having issues forking out an extra 5p per litre of fuel perhaps you should consider buying a more economical car?
3. Yes it can be, I have a regular one I go to fuel up.