FOR SALE CHECK OUT NEW ADVERT
- Thread starter MisanoE85
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For Sale
At the summit of the picturesque fens
Few minutes more spare time: turns out it's a April 2005 car (still not sure which 3.0 z4).
MOT runs out May 2026.
'Interesting' MOT history - not terrible - but would want to see evidence of the various repairs that were carried over for several years (assuming by the previous owner that looked after it really well).
Also carrying corroded brake pipe advisories from last MOT - now fixed?
Car has hardly turned a wheel 2021-2025.
I'm officially out.
Stick to farming - car selling on an active forum like this is not your strong point.
MOT runs out May 2026.
'Interesting' MOT history - not terrible - but would want to see evidence of the various repairs that were carried over for several years (assuming by the previous owner that looked after it really well).
Also carrying corroded brake pipe advisories from last MOT - now fixed?
Car has hardly turned a wheel 2021-2025.
I'm officially out.
Stick to farming - car selling on an active forum like this is not your strong point.
That's an M54 then.
Funnily enough, a lot of people do refer to it as a more 'agricultural' unit than the N52.
derin100
Active member
I’m very sorry but I have to disagree.
Firstly, Car and Classic (C&C) does NOT cost money. Advertising on there, for private individuals, is FREE!
Secondly, you’ll get a far wider audience of GENUINE potential buyers on there than here i.e people who don’t already own a Z4 rather than people who already own and want another. IIRC, I am one of only few people that I’ve seen on here owning more than one Z4 at a time.
This brings me on to my third and final point:
More often than not on here, it is people who already own a Z4 either wishing to compare it with their own car. Or, it is people asking deliberately inane or sarcastic questions to demean or denigrate the text of an advert, when they know full well the answer…as a display of their detailed knowledge, perhaps? Or, sometimes, they’ll even given an opinion on the asking price! More often than not actually undermining it!
I have been on this forum now for 14 years. I have been on many, many car forums right from the beginning of such things! I have been in the BMW Car Club for 43 years and owned over 70 BMWs in my life. But, and I have said this here before, I have never seen a forum where so many owners (bizarrely) talk down the values of their own cars! It is a constant theme.
Every Z4 that I have previously had and sold was sold through C&C, except one which was sold through Pistonheads (where I also get lifetime free advertising by virtue of having been one the first people to join the site).
I would NEVER advertise a car, let alone a Z4, to sell on here.
P.S. Edited to say: Look! In the time it took me to write this post, my point has been proven! The car has been ‘ripped apart’, by people who have no intention of buying it anyway and have now declared themselves as “Out” (when they were never actually “In” anyway.).
That is effectively a ‘Death Sentence’ on that advert and car here now! Any prospective buyer, who comes to this forum now seeking a car to buy, is going to read that thread. What do you think the result will be?!
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I get that is your opinion - mine is very different.
I sold my last z4 here on this forum & found the experience very positive (lived experience - not opinion).
My buying position? I'm ready & twitching to impulse buy (like always) something nice - money in hand, wife aligned, ready to go. Today.
First glance liked the colour, saw 3L, that's almost enough for me to sign the cheque..... then it fell apart with the lack of detail & my lack of ability to do basic checks.
Good cars absolutely do sell very quick on this very forum - buyers are here.
However, we aren't all patient & wanting to play guessing games or be Sherlock Holmes - and can critical (I call it witty) with responses when we feel the need.
If the OP had spent more then 30 seconds on this forum they would be well aware that there is an audience type. If a half assed advert is posted, and the only way to get any info is to phone the person, then that will be commented on.
OP has been active by private message - but not added or responded to the details.
I sold my last z4 here on this forum & found the experience very positive (lived experience - not opinion).
My buying position? I'm ready & twitching to impulse buy (like always) something nice - money in hand, wife aligned, ready to go. Today.
First glance liked the colour, saw 3L, that's almost enough for me to sign the cheque..... then it fell apart with the lack of detail & my lack of ability to do basic checks.
Good cars absolutely do sell very quick on this very forum - buyers are here.
However, we aren't all patient & wanting to play guessing games or be Sherlock Holmes - and can critical (I call it witty) with responses when we feel the need.
If the OP had spent more then 30 seconds on this forum they would be well aware that there is an audience type. If a half assed advert is posted, and the only way to get any info is to phone the person, then that will be commented on.
OP has been active by private message - but not added or responded to the details.
Each to their own as they say, but I don't see any inane or sarcastic questions here.
I have my own E85 and am not looking for another one ((in fact, add me to your list as I currently have 4). However, every day we get Newbies signing up who have never had a Zed but are looking for one, with no real idea what to look for. I feel it is the duty of established members/owners to at least make sure the information they read is accurate.
In this case there is inaccuracy and a real reticence to bother to answer any questions.
If you are going to say that you are happy to answer queries, then how can you then say, it'll be on C&C if you want to know any more.
Then when pressed, suggest you will discuss it 'off-line'. That is bending forum rules and etiquette.
With regard to values: if you watch the various sales outlets you will indeed see a lot of highly prices examples. However, they are often still there months later. There is a core of sensible owners on here who are not deluded and prepared to voice the opinion that real values are lower. I read a lot on other forums etc where everyone bemoans the low values and says that we should all hold out for higher prices so it artificially pushes values up. Sorry, but it won't happen.
I have sold cars on here, at realistic prices, without issue.
If I wanted to inflate the value I would choose somewhere with a lot less knowledge to try it.
James35i
Member
Bloody hell you'd think the guy had committed crimes against humanity, the adverts really not that bad, and he's provided his mobile number so you can bombard him with questions such as 'does it have the upgraded hi-fi system which is 20 years old and sounds shite anyway'.
Not to mention he stated his occupation as working on a farm, so the blokes probably in the middle of a field right now whilst you are all discussing the ins and outs of car selling decorum.
Not to mention he stated his occupation as working on a farm, so the blokes probably in the middle of a field right now whilst you are all discussing the ins and outs of car selling decorum.
Added to the list of opinions.
derin100
Active member
You don’t see any inane or sarcastic questions?!
“20 inch wheels?”…”They look just like the 18” ones on mine…”
“ ‘Interesting’ MOT history”
“Car has hardly turned a wheel between 2021-2025”
“You had it washed once, at sunset”. {draws laughter from others}
“You’ve just discovered in the last few weeks that you’re a farmer” {draws laughter from others}
“Yeh getting bored already”
“Stick to farming”
Etc.
You honestly don’t see how any of this undermines the seller or the car?! That advert and car are a dead duck here now.
Whilst one may think these things to oneself, if one is genuinely considering buying the car, why is there need or compulsion to vocalise those thoughts in an open forum? What is the motivation? What purpose does it serve? And…what are the consequences when it is done?
My comment, which you have adjusted just enough to fit your opinion it would seem. Am I not allowed now to say that I wasn't aware they did this wheel in other sizes? There are many designs where they do.
One would suggest, once one has considered the consequences, that one should be free to vocalise one's thoughts, should one feel the compulsion to, for the eduction of both prospective purchasers and also the vendor. One's intention being that future purveyors of these fine automobiles will carry out their due diligence and prepare an advert that does not lend itself to any form of inane or sarcastic feedback.
James35i
Member
This would be true if he provided a singular picture of his car and asked people to PM him/link to the other site, but he has provided an overview of the car, its location, the price, and given his mobile number, so anybody who's actually interested can pick his brains for further information.
I'm not saying it's the world's best advert, and there are definitely bits of info he missed off, but the response feels overly harsh.
Perhaps a car sale template could be built into the site, with mandatory fields that must be filled before it can be posted, or they could be manually checked by an admin before becoming visible to all members.
Tbh, I think the trouble is that people are so used to the slapdash facebook approach that they think this forum works the same way, so they throw in a quick car for sale post and are then upset when people want them to do it properly.
So are you saying that someone joining up to sell their car should firstly do a bit of research on what to write? That's a bit radical surely?
(PS, laughing emoji added to dampen the obvious sarcasm, cos I know you're bigger than me and easily offended.)
As a relative newbie here, I must respectfully disagree with you Derin100.
The comments made thus far, are fair.
The seller has talked the car up, then failed to support the statements or provide much in the way of information.
The comments on washing and photography are meant in good humour.
The problem for the seller is that the lack of response and information, along with hiding the registration and using trade advertisement plates, makes people, suspicious and much more likely to poke fun at someone who appears to be "less than transparent" on the provenance of the car.
My comments were designed to HELP the OP sell the car on here, tis all.
BTW I have sold four cars on this forum (two Z4s, and two not) quickly and all for good prices. I spend a lot of time and effort on adverts, so there can be no ambiguity and nothing left to chance.
If an advert for a car has been written carefully and comprehensively with great pictures, it says a lot about the seller and gives prospective buyers confidence IMO.
BTW I have sold four cars on this forum (two Z4s, and two not) quickly and all for good prices. I spend a lot of time and effort on adverts, so there can be no ambiguity and nothing left to chance.
If an advert for a car has been written carefully and comprehensively with great pictures, it says a lot about the seller and gives prospective buyers confidence IMO.
Exactly, well put!
That I didn't know. Sorry.
