Cayman 718 S
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JustCruzin
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pvr said:
Agree, definitely affected the resale value and buyer interest on my 35iS which is now with Mike Brewer Motors. My Cayman will have nav for that very reason BUT if you are really not going to use it I guess it doesn't make sense to have it.
Cheers JC
pvr said:
All the demonstrators seem to have it. Only problem with getting nav, is that you have to get Connect Plus rather than the basic Connect if you want that functionality. That will be a £1500 premium over just Connect, which will still let you use you iPhone nav through the PCM. Not sure if that would be fully recouped.
JustCruzin said:pvr said:
Agree, definitely affected the resale value and buyer interest on my 35iS which is now with Mike Brewer Motors. My Cayman will have nav for that very reason BUT if you are really not going to use it I guess it doesn't make sense to have it.
Cheers JC
I guess the other negative with a non-nav equipped z4 is that you don't have the Idrive either. Probably doesn't help that the idrive later became standard, too. I was always a bit annoyed that they didn't include the idrive when they did the lci, just to bring it up to date. Would have been quite happy if it was just a stripped down version and nav and other bits were extra cost options. Didn't spec it on my z4 either mainly as it seemed a costly option for what I'd get back.
Paulwirral
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Simon20VT said:
I think those seats look great , come sale time someone will choose that over the other 20 available for sale at the same time with boring black . A few years time everyone will be over factory sat nav , it's only really important to the salesman selling the new car to the first buyer .
And at the end of the day , you should buy what you like and will enjoy , not what the next owner will want . A bad analogy I read was " would you buy nice underwear for your beautiful girlfriend so she can keep it in the drawer for her next boyfriend ? "
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pvr said:
I must admit I'm a Neanderthal when it comes to tech , last 2 cars I've bought has it as standard , and on one of them I didn't even realise :lol: I'm not one for reading through the tech properly although I did check for a factory lsd on the slc I never considered nav . I still use a paper map and write down the major places that will be en route on road signs and wedge it in the ashtray .
I'm still waiting for the skin to grow back on my knuckles though :lol:
Paulwirral said:Simon20VT said:
I think those seats look great , come sale time someone will choose that over the other 20 available for sale at the same time with boring black . A few years time everyone will be over factory sat nav , it's only really important to the salesman selling the new car to the first buyer .
And at the end of the day , you should buy what you like and will enjoy , not what the next owner will want . A bad analogy I read was " would you buy nice underwear for your beautiful girlfriend so she can keep it in the drawer for her next boyfriend ? "
They did mention that about the Nav, not the metaphor though
Also tried pushing the DAB to "future proof" the car. It did occur to me why that wasn't standard like any other manufacturer if that was the case.stuartinzg
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pvr said:
I use a brodit clip directly attached to the dash and use my phone for nav and music. Since the navigation with Waze or Here maps is generally better anyway. I get live updates and traffic reports. For connecting to the car I use a bluetooth dongle which has direct connection to the logs for adaptation resets and all the info I need. I find old satnav/idrive's terrible - better to save the money.
I do too many foreign trips, so the phone satnav option does not work for me.
Having tried the phone on a few occasions when looking for a restaurant or so, I have found it extremely unreliable as out in the sticks, there is often no reception so no idea on where to go then.
I like the reliability of the car system - especially in cities with high rise buildings, country side without signal or junctions abroad inside tunnels where the phone / portable systems let me down.
Having tried the phone on a few occasions when looking for a restaurant or so, I have found it extremely unreliable as out in the sticks, there is often no reception so no idea on where to go then.
I like the reliability of the car system - especially in cities with high rise buildings, country side without signal or junctions abroad inside tunnels where the phone / portable systems let me down.
JustCruzin
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She's arriving in the UK I am told tomorrow. Getting very excited.Due to my work commitments I cannot pick up the Cayman until November 5th but boy, I am counting the seconds! Booked her in already for a full Gtechniq protection coating (NOT via Porsche!).
Will post pics in hopefully about 9-10 days.
Cheers JC
In a few years the manufacture nav thing will come to an end. Creating specific hardware and software takes a large budget and takes a lot of R&D and by the time it comes to market it will be outdated.
Better off letting the tech companies work with manufactures like the android and apple equivalent. Phones are much more useful than the internal nav because they are always up to date and you always have it with you instead of paying £1000+ then buying updated maps every 2-3 years then a lot of cars still dont have a 7 digit postcode... 2012 911 for example neither does my GFs 2013 Clio... Just a pain.
I do however like the idrive for the control of the rest of the cars systems.
At least I suppose with the connected drive it updates without the need to buy maps etc and has road updates. Why I love google maps it will tell me where the traffic is bad currently and how to avoid it comes in handy every day.
Good news on the Cayman! Looking forward to seeing some pics of it!
Better off letting the tech companies work with manufactures like the android and apple equivalent. Phones are much more useful than the internal nav because they are always up to date and you always have it with you instead of paying £1000+ then buying updated maps every 2-3 years then a lot of cars still dont have a 7 digit postcode... 2012 911 for example neither does my GFs 2013 Clio... Just a pain.
I do however like the idrive for the control of the rest of the cars systems.
At least I suppose with the connected drive it updates without the need to buy maps etc and has road updates. Why I love google maps it will tell me where the traffic is bad currently and how to avoid it comes in handy every day.
Good news on the Cayman! Looking forward to seeing some pics of it!
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pvr said:
I don't mean to be contrary but Here maps is inside the latest BMW systems (it was bought by BMW/Audi and one other) and can be installed on the phone with a local database so you don't need constant signal. You also have Waze and can download country maps for offline use. Both get real time updates and are considerably better than Google maps. With Waze you see other users and can proactively report obstructions or accidents and take immediate action. The phone is more powerful than the inbuilt system, both in terms of processing power and update capabilities.
P.S I use the phone for nav all across Europe with a small roaming package for data updates too. I have the bluetooth working and a small bluetooth receiver which I use on the aux in (arm rest) so can wirelessly transmit music to the car too. The bluetooth dongle powers itself from the nextdoor USB so I never touch it. As soon as the car connects to the phone (automatic) it goes into car mode and remains unlocked and ready to go. I just slot it in (brodit has a USB charger built in) and away you go - music, GPS + phone. No hassles - all my steering wheel controls work too.
pvr said:
I use Sygic in my Z4 on my phone. It's offline so you don't need any kind of data connection. The basic version is free. It's about £15 to upgrade to lifetime maps, HUD, speed limits, voice commands, dash cam and a bunch of other stuff. You only need a connection for real time traffic or when you want to update maps. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with CarPlay at the moment and although it will override the inbuilt multimedia screens of many manufacturers via USB, Porsche isn't one of them yet. I prefer it to the nav in the 718.
JustCruzin
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Stark said:
Hey nice
God forbid we ever get an all electric Boxster !!!In the words of Dolores Umbridge...
"Progress for the sake of progress must be discouraged. Let us preserve what must be preserved, perfect what can be perfected and prune practices that ought to be prohibited..."
So if it is all about the engine note and I am not going to deny it, the flat six sounds orgasmic, then surely the solution is to have a programmed accelerator pedal which plays back the flat six revs! I'm sure it will be an optional extra soon
Rumour has it the new GT4 will have six cylinders?
Four days to go (just my luck it is going to be freezing).
Cheers JC
