car tax

The answer is simple - just can all those bastard public sector final salary pension shemes that we are funding while they sit on their public sector arses.....then give the money back to the motorists.....

But being British, we just bend over as usual and say "no, stick it in a bit further, I like it..." :cry:
 
IK. said:
Now £245 for the 3.0si? WTF!!!!!!! Surely not? I know it's only a £30 increase, but that still takes the mick!
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I did have a 2004 M3 putting out 323g/KM. Tax was £210 p/a.
I now have a 2006 Z4M putting out 323g/KM. Tax is £435 p/a.

Same engine, double the tax because of when it was registered. Even worse for E46 M3 owners who have a car registered on the 23rd March 2006 - anything before that pays the old rate, anything after the new ones. So for a while the same car, a week newer, would have double the tax. Now that's a band 'K' car, so £245...

Worse, as of April 2010 new cars will have 'first year' road tax costs of between £100 and £940.

Got to pay for a public sector that has more than doubled since Labour came to power somehow...
 
I've no idea on the pension side of things. I pay around £100 a month into mine, so I don't get it for free, that's for sure.

As for the job, the theory is that I make things better in the NHS, thus saving the country money.
 
IK. said:
I've no idea on the pension side of things. I pay around £100 a month into mine, so I don't get it for free, that's for sure.

As for the job, the theory is that I make things better in the NHS, thus saving the country money.
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well if you work for the NHS it will be final salary, i.e. guaranteed to pay a fixed percentage of your finishing salary, while I have to live with an expensive lottery (yep PVRs chuckle was spot on!! - my pension contributions are quite a multiple of yours a month)that may or may not pay me enough...and the fact your FS scheme pays a fixed rate means it needs to be massively funded....by me and the rest of the public.

20% of my council tax goes on local government pension costs for example. There is simply no private sector organisation even remotely comparable.....so I make no apologies for my assertions! :)
 
I have to admit I know nothing about pensions. I just pay £100 a month in to it, and that's it.

Feel free to mock, and say that I'm sucking the money out of you. I'm used to it. The fact is, I'm trying my best to do a good job.

P.S. The public sector pension scheme by the time I come to 'cash in' will be gone as we know it, so I won't benefit at all. Add to that the fact that my job is far more insecure than the private sector, we don't have it that easy.
 
pvr said:
£100 a month :rofl:
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I think the point he is trying to make is that it doesn't seem like a lot compared to private sector contributions.

A better comparison would be %age of salary.

Fair play to you IK if you work in a direct capacity within the NHS. I was quite touched by the postive attitude and empathy of the staff just last week when we had our baby; it was so evident that they were making the best of a lack of resources and manpower and just mucking in and doing their very best. I picked up on a few side conversations about not enough beds, really busy, people being begged to do overtime, but none of this was made and issue of at the 'customer interface' :thumbsup: to Queen's Hospital Burton on Trent. It is a shame that my wife had to recover in a bed with linen that had holes in but this is not the fault of any individual working at the coalface in those wards.

We have morally dubious MP expenses to fund though, don't we? :thumbsdown:
 
I don't actually work on the frontline. I'm a Project Manager, and my role is basically to look at how we can improve services for patients, which naturally includes ways of reducing spend without reducing quality. Most of our focus (since I started) is about actually getting the job done right in the first place, so it doesn't cost us more in the long term. All of this is hard of course when funds are being cut.

I do have family that work on the front line though, so that must make them parasites too, eh? One nurse auxillary, and two mental health team managers. Wait, my sister is also a teacher! Christ, we're really bleeding you lot dry.

You must all forget that we pay into the pot too, so it hits us as well.
 
Nobody mocked you or called you a parasite - so don't be such a drama queen. :poke:

Simple fact is that as a public sector employee you get benefits the rest of us don't (even redundancy in the PS is something of a misnomer as I have often seen close up), so you have to accept that a bit of criticism goes with the territory - its isn't personal, its my tax dollars is all.

I've spent the last few years working in the defence sector.....now THERE are a bunch of wastrels..... :fuelfire:
 
lacroupade said:
The answer is simple - just can all those bastard public sector final salary pension shemes that we are funding while they sit on their public sector arses.....then give the money back to the motorists.....

But being British, we just bend over as usual and say "no, stick it in a bit further, I like it..." :cry:
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Drama queen you say? Pot, meet kettle ;)
 
I have just realised that the cost of road tax now is almost the same that I pay for my fully comp insurance for my car!!

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Shame there isn't a "monthly" option...

I'd probably be inclined to pay for 6 months between May and October in the summer, plus maybe one or two months through the colder months, and leave the car off the road when the worst of the weather is about. Hey, would probably knock about £100 off a year seeing as the car isn't used much then anyway...

It is rediculous, mostly when considered that we pay the most (%'age wise) in Fuel Duty... and that is the fairest "road tax", yet we really do have a crumbling road network at the moment. The investment in roads has been shocking under Labour... (along with pretty much everything else!)
 
sixspeed said:
Shame there isn't a "monthly" option...
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There is, effectively. Pay for twelve months if you only want to run the car for eight, then just before month eight take the disc back to post office and request a refund.

At least I think you can still do this.

I am going to run my tax from May to Nov this year (current disc doesnt run out til end of this month) as I can do without the M over the winter months.
 
lacroupade said:
The answer is simple - just can all those bastard public sector final salary pension shemes that we are funding while they sit on their public sector arses.....then give the money back to the motorists.....

But being British, we just bend over as usual and say "no, stick it in a bit further, I like it..." :cry:
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thats mandelson isnt it?
 
ace said:
lacroupade said:
The answer is simple - just can all those bastard public sector final salary pension shemes that we are funding while they sit on their public sector arses.....then give the money back to the motorists.....

But being British, we just bend over as usual and say "no, stick it in a bit further, I like it..." :cry:
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thats mandelson isnt it?
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:rofl:
 
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